dull cars today that once had a hot model (selling, Acura, BMW)

[victimofGM]

Originally Posted by Fleet

The problem is... Cadillac doesn't have a current large sedan.

If I wanted to buy a new current Cadillac, there isn't really one I would want.

If I was back in 1970, I would have to choose between several models... Coupe de Ville, Fleetwood Brougham, Fleetwood Seventy-Five Limousine or 9-passenger sedan, Sedan de Ville, Eldorado, DeVille Convertible, etc. because I like all the models they had back then.

Their largest sedan is the XTS which is a Buick Lacrosse with more tech.

[Stratford, Ct. Resident]

I don't know that i would call the new '14 Mazda 6 "dull", but it is now lacking a hot model(Speed).

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by victimofGM

Their largest sedan is the XTS which is a Buick Lacrosse with more tech.

The XTS is the largest sedan?

Interesting. Let's compare with my former compact 1966 Dodge Dart GT V-8.

------------------------ 2014 Cadillac XTS--- 1966 Dodge Dart GT

Wheelbase----------- 111.7"----------------- 111.0"
Overall length------- 202.0"------------------ 196.3"

Well, the Cadillac is a little longer but not much!

Maybe compare with a 1976 Cadillac Seville (a mid-sized car):

----------------------- 2014 Cadillac XTS----- 1976 Cadillac Seville

Wheelbase---------- 111.7"------------------ 114.3"
Overall length------ 202.0-------------------- 204.0"

As victimofGM said, Cadillac really should build a true full-sized car. Yes, I know they probably wouldn't sell many, but the 1966-1976 Calais coupe and sedans or Fleetwood Sevnety-Fives were not big sellers but they built them, anyway! Just to give their customers that choice.

[Jezer]

I miss the small cute coupes produced by Fiat and Lancia around 1970.

They were modestly powered but had lovely styling and four seats.

Fiat had the 124 Coupe and Lancia the Fulvia.

Lancia of course produced one of the iconic sports/rally cars in the Ferrari powered Stratos.

[GTOlover]

Originally Posted by Fleet

The XTS is the largest sedan?

Interesting. Let's compare with my former compact 1966 Dodge Dart GT V-8.

------------------------ 2014 Cadillac XTS--- 1966 Dodge Dart GT

Wheelbase----------- 111.7"----------------- 111.0"
Overall length------- 202.0"------------------ 196.3"

Well, the Cadillac is a little longer but not much!

Maybe compare with a 1976 Cadillac Seville (a mid-sized car):

----------------------- 2014 Cadillac XTS----- 1976 Cadillac Seville

Wheelbase---------- 111.7"------------------ 114.3"
Overall length------ 202.0-------------------- 204.0"

As victimofGM said, Cadillac really should build a true full-sized car. Yes, I know they probably wouldn't sell many, but the 1966-1976 Calais coupe and sedans or Fleetwood Sevnety-Fives were not big sellers but they built them, anyway! Just to give their customers that choice.

GM won't get another taxpayer funded government bailout if they make a decision to take a risk like that at this point in time.

[Yellow Jacket]

Originally Posted by GTOlover

GM won't get another taxpayer funded government bailout if they make a decision to take a risk like that at this point in time.

To be fair, I doubt that one car would be the author of the company's destruction. The Elmiraj concept may be produced in some form.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by Yellow Jacket

To be fair, I doubt that one car would be the author of the company's destruction. The Elmiraj concept may be produced in some form.

It's possible about the Elmiraj. But it's sure taking a long time! Hasn't that concept/prototype been around for at least several years?

[motormaker]

At least since 2013.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by motormaker

At least since 2013.

2013? Maybe I was mistaking it for the Ciel.

[Coolhand68]

I'm not saying Cadillac needs to turn back the dial to 1959, but I think they can come up with some better designs no inside and out that represent the brand much better an what is offered now. Chrysler did it with a smaller 200 series, and the Japanese and European luxuries cars aren't stylish and elegant without resembling canal boats. Jaguar had maintained a classy and very appealing design over the decades. Cadillac needs to fire their design engineers and take a few lessons from their counterparts.