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Old 11-19-2013, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Do you think American roads were all built without the use of convict labor? How many Chinese workers died building American railroads? A single train brought back the bodies of 1,200 Chinese workers to Sacramento. Hitler was emulating us when he built roads without caring how many workers died in the process.
Oh shut up.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:53 PM
 
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The Autobahn makes the Interstate system look like it was built by incompetent baboons. It is such a magnificent piece of roadway. First thing first is that people need to be taught how to drive. You know not going slower than traffic in the passing lanes. Not using signals the lot.
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:09 AM
 
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Oh shut up.

Now that's funny...

The biggest windbag on CD telling someone else to shut up.
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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Speed cameras on interstates. You are a moron. Those will do just as much harm as red light cameras, causing more accidents than they prevent.

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They use them on the Autobahn all the time, moron. They do that instead of having cops pull people over. And aren't we supposed to want our Interstates to be just like the Autobahn?
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:32 AM
 
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Do you think American roads were all built without the use of convict labor? How many Chinese workers died building American railroads? A single train brought back the bodies of 1,200 Chinese workers to Sacramento. Hitler was emulating us when he built roads without caring how many workers died in the process.
This is actually pretty funny. You've got quite an imagination.

By the way, I had a nice glass of wine before I went to bed last night too...
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:36 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I actually didn't join this conversation until you mentioned speed cameras. I've neither agreed nor disagreed with imitating the autobahn with our interstate system.

It is a great concept in theory. However, we simply have too much land to cover to have such a high maintenance freeway system. It simply would cost too much.

I thought you don't want our interstates to be like the autobahn? Now you are wanting to implicate ideas from the autobahn onto our interstates... That's a bit hypocritical, don't you think? Especially since you are dropping insults like hot cakes on those that do wish our national transportation network was as advanced as Germany's autobahn.

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Old 11-20-2013, 05:40 AM
 
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I actually didn't join this conversation until you mentioned speed cameras. I've neither agreed nor disagreed with imitating the autobahn with our interstate system.

It is a great concept in theory. However, we simply have too much land to cover to have such a high maintenance freeway system. It simply would cost too much.

I thought you don't want our interstates to be like the autobahn? Now you are wanting to implicate ideas from the autobahn onto our interstates... That's a bit hypocritical, don't you think? Especially since you are dropping insults like hot cakes on those that do wish our national transportation network was as advanced as Germany's autobahn.

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Haha - I proposed several simple improvements, and now this?

By the way, have you ever noticed those big poles along the Interstate, with cross arms that look like stop light arms except there's just a box on the end? What do you think might be in those boxes?

My suggestion was simply this: Speeding cameras would keep State Patrol Officers from pulling people over, and causing another hazard on the Interstates. Would that NOT be an improvement?
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:50 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Haha - I proposed several simple improvements, and now this?

By the way, have you ever noticed those big poles along the Interstate, with cross arms that look like stop light arms except there's just a box on the end? What do you think might be in those boxes?

My suggestion was simply this: Speeding cameras would keep State Patrol Officers from pulling people over, and causing another hazard on the Interstates. Would that NOT be an improvement?
No. I haven't seen those. I live in Texas where individual privacy is still respected and big brother is at a minimum.

You would want a machine replacing tens of thousands of well paying jobs across the nation? What will that do for our economy?

These cameras would be much more hazardous and dangerous than a police officer stopping a motorist on the side of the road, from which you can see their lights from nearly a mile away. What do drivers do when they see an officer running radar on the of the highway? Brake abruptly. These officers are few and far between.

Now you would want cameras that would probably be placed at random every three to five miles away from one another. So speeders would be braking more abruptly, more often, which, by the way, is a major cause for accidents on highways.

Slow drivers are more hazardous and dangerous than speeders. Slow drivers hold back traffic, interrupting the flow of traffic, and react slowly to hazards on the roadway. Don't get a speeder confused with an aggressive drive either, because I know that is your next defense.

So how is this better?

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Old 11-20-2013, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Nobody has mentioned one BIG difference between the interstate and the autobahn: trucking.

A majority of the goods transported across America are trucked along our interstate system. The weight of these vehicles is what does a majority of the damage to the system. To counter this increased wear, American interstates are constructed of harder asphalt. It's rougher to drive on, but holds up a little better to the abuse.

While Germany still has trucks, most of them aren't carrying as heavy loads, and they carry much more goods by rail. Because of this, they are able to use a higher quality, softer asphalt. This type of pavement is much more exensive (but, as mentioned earlier, their system is less than 1/5 the size of ours -- making it cheaper to maintain) and must be replaced more often. However, it's much more grippier (I'm making that a word), making high speed travel safer.

As mentioned earlier as well, the TÃœV (the car inspection department) holds cars to a much higher standard. Seeing some of the rusted, broken cars driving down our roads, I really don't want an autobahn in America.

So to recap: the German autobahn is able to exist because of Germany's increased use of rail, their better driver's education, and the quality of the road and the cars along it. The system could not be dropped directly into America, mostly due to cost, and our reliance on heavy trucking.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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When all vehicles are self-driving, the speed limits can be 100 MPH.

I hit 100mph driving to work today.
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