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Old 03-30-2014, 07:11 PM
 
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Yeah, Toyota "made good on their defects," after a $17 million fine a few years ago and a $1.2 billion settlement last week.
Hey at THEY paid it!

GM will be paying us back with our own money when they're deal is all over and done.

GM will always be a third world style run automotive company.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:19 PM
 
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Yeah, 'cause your one experience trumps millions of other postive experiences.

If one unreliable example was all it took, there would be no manufacturers left to like, as they ALL have had their share of turds. I've had bad Hondas and Toyotas. And completely reliable Fords and GMs (including my current Volt).

Gotta love people that can admit that they are closed minded. Makes it so much easier to know who to completely ignore.
Course a year or so ago all we heard about was the recall on Toyota and how dangerous they were, lol. Guess GM gets a free pass, lol. Where are all the closed minded folks with the outrage wanting to burn Toyota to the ground at now, oh yea there telling us how great GM is, give me a break.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:50 PM
 
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At least Toyota made good on their defects. Toyota offered a buy out to those Tacoma owners with frame rust or a frame replacement.

I think if it were GM the customer would have been told to get bent. I think that is standard big three practice.
Yep that's standard for GM. That's why GM lead global sales for 77 consecutive years by telling it's buyers to "get bent"
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Yep that's standard for GM. That's why GM lead global sales for 77 consecutive years by telling it's buyers to "get bent"
Your "global sales leader for 77 years" line is all you have. They lost that title in their HOME COUNTRY not long ago, though they won it back in 2013. They are only slightly better than Ford.
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Hey at THEY paid it!
They really didn't have much of a choice!

They made good on their defects... but after how many years? And how many years did they wait to issue a recall?
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Old 03-31-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Twin Lakes /Taconic / Salisbury
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They really didn't have much of a choice!

They made good on their defects... but after how many years? And how many years did they wait to issue a recall?

And all you had to do to save yourself from Toyotas "defect" was to push the proper pedal or absilute worst case scenerio knock the shifter in NEUTRAL. Thats real hard to do..

With GMs defect theres no hope when the airbags dont work as they are supposedly designed to.
Good use of taxpayers dollars.
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Old 03-31-2014, 02:21 PM
 
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Your "global sales leader for 77 years" line is all you have. They lost that title in their HOME COUNTRY not long ago, though they won it back in 2013. They are only slightly better than Ford.
More baseless random opinions from a honda owner...

Anyway you think 77 years in a row is a joke? Toyota took the lead in sales in 2013 at the end of the quarter most likely because of the end of the year deals they have.

GM lost that title in their HOME country? hmmm where do you get your data from? Answer is you don't. It's just more random bs you Honda owners spew. Lookie lookie your "very reliable" "better then gm" Honda at the bottom of the list GM has double the market share that Honda has in this country.

YTD 2014 sales for GM 393,590 market share: 17.8
Ford 336,843 market share: 15.3
Chrysler 282,049 market share: 12.8
Toyota 305,649 market share 13.9
Honda 192,036 market share 8.7


Sales leaders 2014 in order GM #1 Ford #2 Chrysler #3 Toyota #4 Honda #5
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Twin Lakes /Taconic / Salisbury
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Sales leaders 2014 in order GM #1 Ford #2 Chrysler #3 Toyota #4 Honda #5
Leader in its faulty products killing its customers. GM.
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Warren County, NJ
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Honda may not sell as much, but at least my airbags will work when I need them.

Seriously, though, I have owned more than a few GMs and was totally turned off by all the stupid little things that went wrong. My sister and brother in law have a newer Malibu and Traverse, and they are riddled with issues. What kind of car has computer issues at 20,000 miles?- a Malibu. Gas guage in the Traverse stopped working. Ridiculous.
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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More baseless random opinions from a honda owner...

Anyway you think 77 years in a row is a joke? Toyota took the lead in sales in 2013 at the end of the quarter most likely because of the end of the year deals they have.

GM lost that title in their HOME country? hmmm where do you get your data from? Answer is you don't. It's just more random bs you Honda owners spew. Lookie lookie your "very reliable" "better then gm" Honda at the bottom of the list GM has double the market share that Honda has in this country.

YTD 2014 sales for GM 393,590 market share: 17.8
Ford 336,843 market share: 15.3
Chrysler 282,049 market share: 12.8
Toyota 305,649 market share 13.9
Honda 192,036 market share 8.7


Sales leaders 2014 in order GM #1 Ford #2 Chrysler #3 Toyota #4 Honda #5
I'm going to mark this thread, so we'll see where the numbers end up after a year, not just 3 months. My guess is you'll end up looking pretty foolish.
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