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Hell no. I got my Corrola for $16k and IMO that's a much better car!
While the Corolla is a decent low budget appliance and it certainly gets the job done for a commute, it's nowhere near as good as the higher end vehicles in Hyundai's line up. The Genesis and Equus would simply embarrass it in everything but fuel mileage ande ven the Sonata is a more desirable car.
Call it what you will, the poster I quoted said they don't see any innovations with BMW or MB. You just called them innovations yourself, whether or not you care for what they do or their purpose is not the point.
Not even close. Aluminum frame/body cars have been around since the NSX had an all aluminum frame in 1990. Putting an aluminum frame in the 2014 F150, (24 years later!) is hardly innovative or meaningful, it's simply the progression of how Ford has had to find ways to meet mpg goals. Lots of manufacturers are making aluminum frame/body cars now.
We probably disagree on what innovation means. Sure aluminum is not new. But using it in a half ton truck that is the best selling vehicle in the US to knock 700 lbs off is gigantic. When this truck hits the market soon - the US vehicle market will be paying attention.
We probably disagree on what innovation means. Sure aluminum is not new. But using it in a half ton truck that is the best selling vehicle in the US to knock 700 lbs off is gigantic. When this truck hits the market soon - the US vehicle market will be paying attention.
I agree, the new F150 will be a game changer and will make life difficult for competing truck makers. The jump to aluminum in this application is huge and likely one of the smartest uses of the material in the automotive market. A fully carbon fiber truck would be great from a weight stand point but at least today it would be hugely expensive to manufacture and repair compared to aluminum. Jump imagine the cumulative improvement to weight and efficiency given the huge number of trucks that are sold every year. A fully carbon BMW is nice and I love it from a technical standpoint but the F150 will have a greater impact on the automotive landscape.
Equus probably weighs about 5k pounds and in order to haul this car around it's gonna need more than 350HP. FWD + 350HP+ is not gonna cut it and that's the reason why they went with RWD and AWD would cut the MPG rating by another 3-5MPG and add about 300-500lb more weight.
Hyundai does not have a performance AWD system like Torsen used in Audis, it is not the same as most safety based 4WD system used in SUVs. It also adds to the cost.
Around my neck of the woods, everyone gets an AWD (not FWD or RWD) SUV or if they get a German sedan they spring for the AWD.
I wouldn't pay that much for any car [except for maybe a restored DeLorean ] and if I did, it would probably be a Honda/Acura. Sorry, that is just what I like and what I have had the best experiences with in my driving years.
I bought a 2009 Elantra brand new and sold it at 36,000 miles to my wife's grandmother. No problems with it. I enjoyed driving it to and from work. I think a lot of value minded folks see Kia's and Hyundai's as good values. They are pretty good reliable cars that are less expensive than Toyota and Honda with some more features but are not some cheap questionable reliability (IMO) like GM or Dodge. That is why I got the Elantra because I couldn't afford a similar year Honda at the time.
Now my 2011 Chevy HHR with 36,000 miles was in the shop more than the Elantra was. I can't wait to send the HHR packing...
But I haven't seen anything resembling innovation coming out of some of those German luxury brands in years. It's kind of sad. I used to want a BMW, even had the model picked out. Now I've got the income to buy one but they don't have a modern looking car that I'd actually want.
if anything, there's a lot going on and many would even argue that more means more that will break.
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] and if I did, it would probably be a Honda/Acura. Sorry, that is just what I like and what I have had the best experiences with in my driving years.