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View Poll Results: Americans, If you live in a area that doesn't require emissions texting, do you care if you car meet
no 49 62.82%
yes 29 37.18%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-11-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Behind enemy lines
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I must have hit too close to home... Sorry you were exposed...
Doubling down on the stupid? Way to show your ass.
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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I drive a 1999 car, so in my state I'm required to have an emissions test annually. I can't renew my registration without the test results. There's a test facility about 10 minutes from where I live. The test only takes a couple of minutes and it costs $12.25. I've never had to wait in line more than 10 minutes and my state has a website where I can check average wait times before I go. My car has passed with flying colors every one of the eight times I've had the test. Were the car to fail, the state has a list of suggested repair places I could take the car if it needed repairs. I think this is a perfectly reasonable thing to expect drivers to do to help everyone have cleaner air.
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:38 AM
 
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nay, I don't care that much unless it's a smoke bomb !
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Westside Houston
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CEL are sensitive. Anything can trigger it. It ll throw the light, due to weather changes. It ll go away on its own, sometimes it doesn't, then there's an actual issue that needs to be address.

If you own a Bmw or any german cars, there's gonna come a time, when your whole dash light up with warning lights. All it takes is money to buy the right reset tool to clear it.
Nothing to do with emission

I lived in SoCal in the 80's-90's, every kid I knew had a straight pipe. I m sorry. A "test pipe" for the officers. They still do it today.

Need to Pass inspection? One phone call away. Pay a little extra. I don't think anyone really care for smog, they care if there car can't pass inspection.
I support safety inspection- I ve seen too many side mirrors hanging, a rolling road debris.
Smog test- govt scam

How many times, have any of you ever seen an old Cadillac or Buick rolling down the road and the smokes out of the tail pipe looks like a chimney? But it's got a new inspection sticker.
I am sure you all have seen it at least once.

That's my experience and opinion.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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I'm more sensitive to the poor people in the country. It's easy for lower middle class and above to purchase vehicles and maintain them to conform to the ever increasing emissions regulations in some counties/states. Poor people don't have the funds to purchase vehicles that easily meet such standards nor the funds to bring them up to those standards. While at this dollar amount, they can afford a new or nearly new motorcycle, they can't go grocery shopping on a motorcycle they can afford. While classic cars may be exempt in some areas, that doesn't mean they should get away from proper tune-up which means more than changing plugs and wires on non-fuel injected engines. Properly tuning the air/fuel mix is a must to make the best possible exhaust emissions.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:01 AM
 
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I am more concerned about power plant pollution...
and second hand smoke...
and chemicals being dumped in my drinking water over muffler smoke and other car emissions.

Thankfully I no longer have to go through inspection. I sometimes think those times when I was told something was wrong, maybe the equipment they used was faulty and it picked up on normal emissions. Or maybe the previous inspections left a bit of residue on the testers. It was a pain to figure out what exactly was wrong. Sometimes the mechanics couldn't find anything concrete. This resulted in me driving with nearby expired tags, praying the cops wouldn't stop me.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:01 AM
 
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China and India don't care. Why should I
...maybe because we don't want our cities to look like this.

Or people to walk around like this.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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While classic cars may be exempt in some areas, that doesn't mean they should get away from proper tune-up which means more than changing plugs and wires on non-fuel injected engines. Properly tuning the air/fuel mix is a must to make the best possible exhaust emissions.
Most antique car owners are fastidious about maintenance, I'd wager that on a given day the typical classic operates at a higher percentage of its most efficient performance point that the typical daily driver regardless of age.

Beyond that, most of these vehicles are driven a few hundred miles a year so even if one is gross polluter the environmental impact would be minimal.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:19 AM
 
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Most antique car owners are fastidious about maintenance, I'd wager that on a given day the typical classic operates at a higher percentage of its most efficient performance point that the typical daily driver regardless of age.

Beyond that, most of these vehicles are driven a few hundred miles a year so even if one is gross polluter the environmental impact would be minimal.
By classic, I mean vehicles 25 years old or older. There are cars from the 70s and 80s still on the road in bad physical shape owned and driven by poor people.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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By classic, I mean vehicles 25 years old or older. There are cars from the 70s and 80s still on the road in bad physical shape owned and driven by poor people.
I see what you're saying now, although I don't think I'd use the word "classic" to describe those cars. They're just old. Or antique, which is the generally accepted word used in the automotive world to describe a vehicle over 25 years old.

But if they're poor enough that they can't afford a decent car or even to properly maintain their older cars, they probably can't afford much gas either and therefore likely aren't driving any more than they have to.
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