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Old 06-23-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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So you don't think there is a difference between "illegally converting a garage" and "garage conversions being outlawed"? Interesting.
Most people are aware that "outlawed" is a synonym for "illegal."
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Redwood Shores, Ca
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Redwood Shores, Ca
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Hey, someone knows the Bay Area. Burlingame. Love the area, but I prefer living in SF proper.
If you aren't complaining about city parking, you either live in the Sunset, Pacific Heights, parts of the inner Richmond, or maybe SoMA, or of course, pay 350 a month to have a garage spot. I know you have heard of the SFMTA before...lol
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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You're right, it says "illegal."

Nothing says "I refuse to give up but realize that I don't have a leg to stand on" like arguing semantics.
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So you don't think there is a difference between "illegally converting a garage" and "garage conversions being outlawed"? Interesting.
Maybe this can be clarified a bit. SF is notorious for illegal home conversions. Converting a garage without a permit is illegal and a building code violation. It also compounds an already difficult parking problem. People buy homes and convert them into 4 apartments, or whatever. Some of these conversion cause sever life safety issues with incorrect windows, doors, and ventilation issues.

I'm from the bay area originally, but don't like the city myself. Too many people for my taste.
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Maybe this can be clarified a bit. SF is notorious for illegal home conversions. Converting a garage without a permit is illegal and a building code violation. It also compounds an already difficult parking problem. People buy homes and convert them into 4 apartments, or whatever. Some of these conversion cause sever life safety issues with incorrect windows, doors, and ventilation issues.

I'm from the bay area originally, but don't like the city myself. Too many people for my taste.
I live in a town of 1000 people. It's illegal to build a deck or a playhouse, or even replace screen windows with double-hung windows on an enclosed porch without a proper permit. Needing a permit to make changes to a property is pretty common for most incorporated cities of more than a few hundred people.

But saying something is illegal, period, is not the same as saying a permit is required in order to do it.
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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I live in a town of 1000 people. It's illegal to build a deck or a playhouse, or even replace screen windows with double-hung windows on an enclosed porch without a proper permit. Needing a permit to make changes to a property is pretty common for most incorporated cities of more than a few hundred people.

But saying something is illegal, period, is not the same as saying a permit is required in order to do it.
Actually, you can build a 120 sq ft shed without a permit. A deck can be exempt if it's not attached to the house. There's a lot that can be done without a permit.

Chapter 1 - Scope and Administration

Of course the jurisdiction having authority can always amend the code.
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Because according to my sister and one of her neighbors it's an eye sore.

Secondly, kids play in the street there, and the cars block field of view, and the cars being there make it much more dangerous for kids in the street.

Thank you for your concern!
Why are kids playing in the street? It's a street not a playground. Irresponsible parenting.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:44 PM
 
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If you aren't complaining about city parking, you either live in the Sunset, Pacific Heights, parts of the inner Richmond, or maybe SoMA, or of course, pay 350 a month to have a garage spot. I know you have heard of the SFMTA before...lol
I live in a very nice area of SF where parking isn't a problem. I also didn't buy in the past 10 years so I was able to do it without selling my organs.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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But saying something is illegal, period, is not the same as saying a permit is required in order to do it.
Funny thing is, no one said "something is illegal period", you just made that up because you are an intellectually corrupt individual.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:46 PM
 
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Actually, you can build a 120 sq ft shed without a permit. A deck can be exempt if it's not attached to the house. There's a lot that can be done without a permit.

Chapter 1 - Scope and Administration

Of course the jurisdiction having authority can always amend the code.
Damn, thanks for the info MrWilly.

Duster getting schooled!
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