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Old 06-24-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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When you start a V6 why does it crank so much quicker than a standard Inline-4 car?

I tried searching but could not find any detail regarding this matter

Here is the example. Both of these are Toyota's. One is a undersquare 2.4L I-4 and the other is a oversquare 3.5L V6 and an older 3.0L V6

Notice how the I-4 needs a few cranks before it starts up

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BaSJo0nLenc

3.5L V6


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qoXLJZ9e89c

3.0L V6 from 1990


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=raehnlsjU2I

In comparison look at how quickly the V6 starts up. What's the reason for this phenomenon?
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:15 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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Bigger battery, more powerful starter?
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Prosper
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Simple. It's the timing process. With a 4 cyl car, there are only 4 times in the crankshaft cycle where the conditions are met where the piston, crank, and cam gears are aligned, and when the spark will ignite the fuel mixture.

On a 6 cyl car, there's 6 times per revolution where those things occur. So, the odds are that most of the time, the 6 cyl is going to be closer to its proper ignition timing upon startup than with a 4 banger.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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True ^

Shorter stroke and power overlap is the reason why V6 are smooth.

Most inline-4 are undersquare and no I-4 has power overlap
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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As a general rule, the bigger engines get, the smoother they get.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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How quickly a car fires up has nothing to do with the number of cylinders. Period.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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Originally Posted by HappyRider View Post
How quickly a car fires up has nothing to do with the number of cylinders. Period.
Don't you think you should do more research on that before issuing such a blanket (and false) statement. Question Mark.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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To me, picturing in my mind the schematic, it seems intuitive to me that the more firing points in a single rotation of a crank shaft, the higher the probability of enough fire per rotation to sustain a running condition. Granted, there is a lot more resistance to turning an engine with more pistons, but presumably that has been taken into account in the power output of the stock starter.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I am happy my car just starts.
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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As a general rule, the bigger engines get, the smoother they get.
Actually the general rule is that the more cylinders an engine has the smoother they are.

"Big" four cylinders engines are rougher because the pistons have so much mass they cause vibration. Hence the use of balance shafts in larger displacement four cylinder engines.
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