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GM-junk, Honda-reliable but boring, Lamborghini-great but unattainable, Ford-uprising, Chrysler-Challenger!, Kia-cha cha cha Chia!, Subaru-lets move to PNW and do cool stuff, Jeep-outgrew it's roots, I could go on and on but I probably already pi$sed people off
Hyundai- every car they make is an almost direct copy of another carmakers design. Good warranty, but you'll need it.
Jeep- the latest brand to suffer from churning out vehicles built on car chassis which has cheapened the brand's image.
Fiat- there used to be a joke that the punchline was something like, Don't eat English food, drink German wine, buy Italian cars, or read French literature... or something like that. However, that discounts Maserati and Lamborghini. But not Fiat.
Hyundai- every car they make is an almost direct copy of another carmakers design. Good warranty, but you'll need it.
Jeep- the latest brand to suffer from churning out vehicles built on car chassis which has cheapened the brand's image.
Fiat- there used to be a joke that the punchline was something like, Don't eat English food, drink German wine, buy Italian cars, or read French literature... or something like that. However, that discounts Maserati and Lamborghini. But not Fiat.
I was reading some of the "Subaru jokes" I Googled, and was almost rolling on the floor laughing.
Chrysler product - if it has a problem my Chrysler tech buddy will probably walk me through the repair so I don't have to take it to the shop.
That's it. Unless it's an antique or classic brand plays no part in my opinion of a vehicle. Each model - actually, each individual vehicle - stands on its own merit.
Oh goody, yet another thread about stereotypes and to show how little people on this forum actually know about cars.
I know, the fact people know think Jeeps are crap is not true. They are still better off road, than anything else. That said, I wouldn't buy a Cherokee. I didn't mean stereotypes, I meant quality, but that is what I kind of expected the interpretation would be.
I know, the fact people know think Jeeps are crap is not true. They are still better off road, than anything else. That said, I wouldn't buy a Cherokee. I didn't mean stereotypes, I meant quality, but that is what I kind of expected the interpretation would be.
First, I agree with you! Second, they really put all their effort into becoming the American Land Rover (but with reliability). The Grand got ALL the attention, and it is a world-class kid-hauler (c'mon, the great majority never even see snow, even though they are insanely good at it, I put a LOT of miles on my 2004 and it took me through Nebraska blizzards with ZERO drama).
I've had two Wranglers, one XJ that got heavily modified and was my trail truck, and one Grand ZJ. Compared to most Japanese competition in quality, you could have considered them crap (now hold on, I LOVED them). Of course, I was the type of owner that would swap out a radiator knowing if I wasn't done Sunday night I'd miss work Monday, so I was motivated. But they were designed and built during times that Chrysler was just getting out of their AMC stuff (not all bad, that I6 was the toughest motor ever built outside of the slant-6). The interior bits were way out of date, the tops would blow off, all normal charming stuff. But they were different than anything else on the road. If you could commute in a Wrangler and love it, you were not normal, and that was just fine. That's the origin of the "Jeep Thing" bumper sticker.
Now, the Unlimited is much more likely to be driven by a suburbanite with a cell phone and kids (not knocking that either...that describes me now too). It's a "cool" minivan alternative. I don't like it, but if they didn't succeed like this they'd be gone like Olds/Pontiac/Mercury, etc. My stock 2004 TJ got about 14mpg. At $4 a pop, getting less mpg than a Tahoe or Yukon was just silly, but that's technology for you. Yes, any modern Jeep is WAY more likely to get you to work than before (I put a dual battery kit in my '89 for a REASON). The Wrangler was the LAST carbureted vehicle in America, and when I worked for a dealer in the early 90's it was common for a four-cylinder Wrangler to stall itself all the time. Brand new. That's just what was left of the Jeep/AMC company was just trying to survive, and still make something people could love. As the Japanese saying goes, there is beauty in imperfection.
So now we have rebadged Fiats, front-wheel drive, minivan motors, leather, and power windows in the Wrangler, and $50k luxo-barge Grand Cherokees. Are they losing their image? I'll put it this way - at the auto show this year, my now-wife was wondering why I kept staring at the $35k Wranglers and looking sad. As we were standing there, another middle-aged guy came up next to me, tapped the grille-cover, and said one word "...plastic...". He then sighed and walked away.
After owning a Subaru and driving it in the winter, I'll never not have one in the driveway.
After owning an Acura, I love it, but they've started raising prices too much and it's no longer the "value luxury" proposition it once was.
Other than that, my family's experience with a variety of brands has shown that you can take any brand car to 200,000 miles if you take good care of it and they aren't harsh miles. But the little things always started to go on the GMs and Fords we've owned, whereas the Hondas/Toyotas seem to never quit.
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I was reading some of the "Subaru jokes" I Googled, and was almost rolling on the floor laughing.
