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I think people are too stupid to drive a stick these days. .
Maybe you are being a bit harsh. I think it's more of a matter that most kids learning to drive these days don't ever get an opportunity to drive a stick because there are so few of them out there.
If you give someone the choice of no car or learn to drive a stick. Guess what happens.... Driving a stick is easy. LOL
No, but mine apparently left you clutching for a way to stay relevant in the discussion, given your complete lack of substance in your response.
Clutching? I am LMAO.
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty
Maybe you are being a bit harsh. I think it's more of a matter that most kids learning to drive these days don't ever get an opportunity to drive a stick because there are so few of them out there.
If you give someone the choice of no car or learn to drive a stick. Guess what happens.... Driving a stick is easy. LOL
I am making an observation.
People approach driving as they do cooking, a microwave is easier as is an automatic transmission. You put it in D and mash the gas until you mash the brakes. You basically do the same with a microwave.
Kids are safer using a microwave than a stove so they learn about that appliance before the stove.
The reason sticks are few and far between is because car manufacturers have convinced the public automatic transmissions are more convenient and most agree. If driving a stick is easy why is it inconvenient? Most likely because it is mindless - sort of like my subway ride home from downtown. I get off at the last stop and can sleep with no care of missing my stop.
To borrrow from your example or either/or...if you give one a choice of reading a newspaper or watching TV to access current events most will choose TV. Guess what? Watching TV easy.
Given a choice between owning a '78 Z28 (which had about 1/3rd the horsepower of a '68 SS 396 Camaro!) with 4-spd and 3.73s or a '69 GTO with automatic, I would definitely choose the '69. The '60s GM Turbo-Hyramatic was a very good and reliable transmission. When installed in muscle cars from the factory, they had a firmer shift and higher shift points. Nothing to LOL about.
Here are some specs for a '69 400-cu-in GTO with automatic transmission.... 0-60 mph in 5.1 seconds (and on '60s tire!).
Here in Europe manual drive cars are still the norm. I drove a six-gear manual for five years and had just about had enough of that by the time I sold it. Unless I'm on a race track (which is never), I don't need to be doing a task that is repetitive, monotonous and easily automated. That's what machines are for. I'm enjoying my new automatic to the fullest and will never go back.
Maybe you are being a bit harsh. I think it's more of a matter that most kids learning to drive these days don't ever get an opportunity to drive a stick because there are so few of them out there.
If you give someone the choice of no car or learn to drive a stick. Guess what happens.... Driving a stick is easy. LOL
Which is why all places that gives a driving test should have a fleet of retired ups stepvans- the ones with 4&5 speed top loaders, and manual steering as a requierment to drive to pass the test.
Which is why all places that gives a driving test should have a fleet of retired ups stepvans- the ones with 4&5 speed top loaders, and manual steering as a requierment to drive to pass the test.
That makes no sense at all. Aside from the cost of maintaining such worn out vehicles, why would you have them train in a vehicle type most of them are likely never to drive again, rather than the type they will be driving, and thus need to be more familiarized with? If someone wants to drive a UPS/FedEx/DHL whatever panel van, then they'll get trained on it once they're hired on.
That makes no sense at all. Aside from the cost of maintaining such worn out vehicles, why would you have them train in a vehicle type most of them are likely never to drive again, rather than the type they will be driving, and thus need to be more familiarized with? If someone wants to drive a UPS/FedEx/DHL whatever panel van, then they'll get trained on it once they're hired on.
That will never happen,UPS, FedEx will not tear up there equipment to teach someone to drive a stick. The reasons the automakers are making more automatics is $$$$$. They charge more for auto than a stick. It all about the money. I can drive anything, a 4 on the floor, or a 3 on the tree. Driving a stick is fun.
I had to log in for this one.. I work at UPS and when you want to drive on Saturday's you have to train at your building and they give you a real POS truck that's a stick and the biggest truck they have..
First gear was shot.. It would grind into first at a dead stop..
Now when you get to a school it looks like a UPS truck but has seats for your other peers in the class so you can view what's going on.. in my case I drove a diesel truck that was also a stick but it was a spricer transmission this time so the shift pattern was not the same.
I only buy cars that have manuals. It's my way of helping to keep the manual alive. The GTI is like 50% manual tranny's still, even with the DSG being offered(the best automated manual box out there)
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