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Old 09-22-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Oroville, CA
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They are vehicular transportation....which are allowed to use vehicular lanes on public streets and hog lane capacity without training of any kind, usage fees or taxes of any kind, or liability insurance.

Bicycle operation tests should be required as a condition of recieveing a driver's license, and liablity insurance should be required for operating one on a public street like every other vehicle.

Where then, would you like kids to ride their bikes?
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Old 09-22-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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Where then, would you like kids to ride their bikes?
At their homes or at their local parks on dedicate bike lanes.....the same place adults with no training to operate a vehicle on a public street should take their toys and exercise equipment.

All vehicles on public roads should be used by trained adults that are both licensed and insured to operate them.

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Old 09-22-2014, 08:51 PM
 
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At their homes or at their local parks on dedicate bike lanes.....the same place adults with no training to operate a vehicle on a public street should take their toys and exercise equipment.

All vehicles on public roads should be used by trained adults that are both licensed and insured to operate them.
Unfair, using logic and common sense
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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Unfair, using logic and common sense
I don't see why cyclists are so adamantly against basic training and any accountability.

If they want cycling to remain popular in this country, they'd demand some basic requirements that improve safety, accountability, and cycling culture.
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Old 09-23-2014, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Oroville, CA
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At their homes or at their local parks on dedicate bike lanes.....the same place adults with no training to operate a vehicle on a public street should take their toys and exercise equipment.

All vehicles on public roads should be used by trained adults that are both licensed and insured to operate them.

So no riding their bikes to school. No riding a bike to a friend's house. No riding a bike to the market down the road. Fantastic World you want to create there.
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Old 09-23-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Oroville, CA
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Most neighborhoods do not have dedicated bike lanes either.
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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So no riding their bikes to school. No riding a bike to a friend's house. No riding a bike to the market down the road. Fantastic World you want to create there.
No riding bikes on the street without training, registration, and insurance. And yes, it would be a fantastic world.

I suspect the attitude and carelessness of most cyclist stems from their ignorance of the law and irresponsibility when learning how to ride bikes as a child. They expect to have the same lack of accountability as adults.
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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No riding bikes on the street without training, registration, and insurance. And yes, it would be a fantastic world.

I suspect the attitude and carelessness of most cyclist stems from their ignorance of the law and irresponsibility when learning how to ride bikes as a child. They expect to have the same lack of accountability as adults.
just fyi--
this is from the Official Texas Driver Handbook put out by the Texas Department of Public Safety (and Texas is a VERY car-centric culture, by the way):

. . .there are certain conditions which allow a bicyclist to take the full lane . . . . (if) [t]he lane is of substandard width making it unsafe for a car and a bicycle to safely share the lane side by side. When this is the case, it is best for the cyclist to take the full lane whether riding single file or two abreast.
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Maine
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just fyi--
this is from the Official Texas Driver Handbook put out by the Texas Department of Public Safety (and Texas is a VERY car-centric culture, by the way):

. . .there are certain conditions which allow a bicyclist to take the full lane . . . . (if) [t]he lane is of substandard width making it unsafe for a car and a bicycle to safely share the lane side by side. When this is the case, it is best for the cyclist to take the full lane whether riding single file or two abreast.
If they're already in the lane, certainly. If they're in the break-down lane, however, and want to move into the travel lane, they need to yield to traffic just as a motorist would have to.

Those rules are not carte blanche for cyclists to cut people off by making unsafe movements in and out of the travel lane. The same rules apply as for drivers: look, signal, and move over if and only if it is safe to do so.
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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No riding bikes on the street without training, registration, and insurance. And yes, it would be a fantastic world.

I suspect the attitude and carelessness of most cyclist stems from their ignorance of the law and irresponsibility when learning how to ride bikes as a child. They expect to have the same lack of accountability as adults.
The driver handbook contains all the information you need concerning safe bicycling. If you have a drivers license in Texas you have read the handbook and therefore have received training.
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