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Old 09-17-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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Yes, some cyclist take advantage.
Just please don't take our your aggression on all cyclists just because of a few bad apples, ok?
There are just as many bad apple bicyclists as there are bad apple car drivers.

Often, bicyclists have no respect for anyone but themselves. They ride past pedestrians at speeds much faster than a person can run, rarely if ever does a bicyclist have a bell or other warning device. Instead they scream at pedestrians because having a bell or horn detracts from the spandex dipped, ad emblazoned style they wear.

It is true. The world would stop turning if they actually had to have a bell, horn or other warning device.

Well, how about this: If bicyclists want to have every else obey the rules of the road and to the point where they get special lanes, then by golly how about acting like they have some measure of responsibility and start having bells/horns, required lights, and blinkers since so few bike riders ever signal their intent to turn or stop?

They is a backlash on the way and when it hits full force, bicyclists are going to rue the day they decided to put themselves before everyone else including pedestrians.

How about this? Everyone that walks, do so 2 or 3 abreast and when a bicycle rider comes up from behind, simply keep walking and make the bike rider do what the car driver must now do, slow down and drive behind or wait until there is sufficient space (at least 3 feet) to pass by.
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Old 09-17-2014, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Why do bike riders feel the need, when traveling in a shoulder lane, to hug the white line right up against traffic when they have 4 or 5 feet of empty paved shoulder to ride on?
Quite simply, its because the shoulder is often full of debris, and less-maintained than the main roads. Ever ridden a bike on the shoulder of the road? It sucks. Besides, bikes have every right to be on the road.
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Old 09-17-2014, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Why do bike riders feel the need, when traveling in a shoulder lane, to hug the white line right up against traffic when they have 4 or 5 feet of empty paved shoulder to ride on?
It might have to do with the fact that bicycles are entitled to ride on the road like any other vehicle, and not on the nail-, glass-, and gravel-strewn shoulder.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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Quite simply, its because the shoulder is often full of debris, and less-maintained than the main roads. Ever ridden a bike on the shoulder of the road? It sucks. Besides, bikes have every right to be on the road.
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It might have to do with the fact that bicycles are entitled to ride on the road like any other vehicle, and not on the nail-, glass-, and gravel-strewn shoulder.
Both of you should look at the link I posted of the road in question, neither of your answers apply.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Central Jersey - Florida
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Bikers in CO are the worse. They don't ride single file but like to pair up and block the road.
I can't comment on bike riders in Co., but I can on many in Washington D.C. who flat out suck. No courtesy at all.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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No, I don't. I've hit a person on a bike once going full speed,, knocked us both down, and sometimes there's collisions at the skate park. I just don't see how it's possible, not doubting it at all, it seems like a very hard thing to do is all.
It can knock a pedestrian into traffic where that pedestrian gets struck by a much larger vehicle.

As likely, maybe more so, it can cause the pedestrian to fall and strike his/her head, and that can kill someone.

If it's an older person, just getting knocked over is likely to cause broken bones, and that can easily kill an older person.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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Both of you should look at the link I posted of the road in question, neither of your answers apply.
I wish I had roads like that around here. That would be a wonderful cycling road. However, at the link you posted, swivel to the left and notice that crack in the asphalt at the edge. The expansion crack runs from the edge of the road to the fog line and is so large that there is grass growing up through it. Perhaps that is why cyclist in that area ride closer to the fog line. Broken asphalt is not very enjoyable to ride upon and leads to numerous flat tires. It's an unsolvable problem. Too expensive to patch, and being out of vehicular traffic lanes, isn't even on anybody's priority list to fix.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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... [*]Do not run up behind me and and go straight when my indicator says I am turning right.
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I was taught that when you're about to turn right, you should be so close to the edge of the road that a bike does not have room to ride up next to you.
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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Well, glad finally someone started gripe on bikers.
Total menace. They lock narrow lanes. Now they are a "vehicle" but then vehicles hit red - they are "pedestrians" and cross on X-walk. Yes, they do move in zig-zags, which comes with standing on pedals acceleration.
Unfortunately, they "have same right to traffic lanes as any other vehicle" and they grossly over use it, with some stoical suicidal inclination.

So here's how it was all fixed back in my country. Sure you could ride in the street, it was free country. But you had to ride on the oncoming traffic side. You know what that does? Wipes you off the street in heart beat. Reason was, they were supposed to "see oncoming vehicles". As the result, when you actually do SEE a say jagged Ford F350 coming at you head to head, guess who flies off the pavement?
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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Broken asphalt is not very enjoyable to ride upon and leads to numerous flat tires.
Sure beats getting hit by a car or semi doing 50MPH +
Love how the cyclers try to come up with any excuse to justify other cyclists behavior.
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