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I have been to Japan several times when I did consulting. They mainly copy american products and then improve them.
Japanese, cars, fridges, planes, stereos, cameras, TVs, smart phones etc are all just copies. They are extremely good at building things but lack imagination. Americans are very good at inventing things. The Japanese manufacturing economy would not exist without American no-how
At least in my profession (automotive interiors) I can attest to this. I actually said it in a previous post, we call it "Same as" , although I don't see much improvment...usually more complex and not as robust but still same as...
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Originally Posted by drro
Not true. For example, Microsoft Windows has always been considered far inferior to Linux, which is a European development. Most processors today are ARM based which is a company from the UK. You make the same mistake like most Americans on these forums, you automatically assume everything is made or developed in the US while that is not true.
Not a single American car is for sale here(exception GM Volt) whereas there are plenty of European cars for sale in the US. That should say enough. I bet it is the same with Japan, they don't want your cars either but sell plenty of their own cars in the US.
This shows how little you really know about the automotive industry. Remember, assembly is WAY different than development and that is were you are wrong.
The regular gas Fusion is built in Hermosillo; the plug-in electric is built in Dearborn.
Mazda did not design the Ford Fusion platform. The 2006 Fusion was based on a stretched version Mazda platform, and re-engineered by Ford. The 2013 Fusion is on CD4, which is a Ford platform.
Those Detroit vehicles sure have been eating Toyota and Honda's lunch lately in terms of regained market share. It's ironic that 9 out of the top 10 vehicles that still use 4 and 5 speed autos are built by Toyota and Honda. It's pretty easy to be reliable when you use 10-15 year old tech and warmed over platforms.
Yeah, who would continue using 10-15 year old technology and platforms just because they are reliable, cost effective to manufacture, relatively easy to troubleshoot and repair, and still earn a very nice and steady profit?
Boy, those Japanese automakers are sure lazy and stupid.
ARM isn't the platform for most serious computing. It is not used in business computing at all. Intel (and a bit of AMD, Motorola, and Fujitsu) own that. Intel had 65% of the microprocessor market in 2013. ARM-based processors had 3% (three). Not sure why you think most processors are ARM based. Lots of tiny, cheap processors doesn't mean they are the most significant.
That is pretty hilarious ignorance, all processors in smart-phones and tablets, and other embedded systems like those in cars are ARM based, there are over 50 billion ARM processors sold, which makes them the most produced processor by far. You wouldn't call processors in your car serious computing? Linux is considered superior to Windows actually. But aren't you changing topic from cars to processors because you know very well the US builds inferior cars compared to Europe and Japan?
Just to be clear - there are many fine European products. But the absence of American vehicles in European car dealers doesn't mean they aren't worthy. A Ford F150 will not be a success in Paris.
Yeah, who would continue using 10-15 year old technology and platforms just because they are reliable, cost effective to manufacture, relatively easy to troubleshoot and repair, and still earn a very nice and steady profit?
Boy, those Japanese automakers are sure lazy and stupid.
Not really , just not innovative.....
Oh and they have their fair share of problems as well... how old it the Tacoma platform ? They just recalled 700k of them.
I just wanted to add I'm speaking only from my experience with the two Asian OEM's I've worked for. Others might not be this way. Subaru seems to stand alone from the others. Also Toyota and the Prius was and still is the bar for hybrids that others aim for.
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Oh and they have their fair share of problems as well... how old it the Tacoma platform ? They just recalled 700k of them.
I just wanted to add I'm speaking only from my experience with the two Asian OEM's I've worked for. Others might not be this way. Subaru seems to stand alone from the others. Also Toyota and the Prius was and still is the bar for hybrids that others aim for.
Subaru does stand alone and that is really the company I had in mind when I made my comment.
First off, the quality gap was in most cases the Japanese makers vs. everybody else.
At this point, Toyota has slipped a bit and Ford in particular has closed the gap.
The really stunning view is if you've ever gotten to see raw manufacturer data (*cough* purely hypothetical of course) and got to see just how much higher the average in-warranty costs were when they launched new platforms and worked to debug them. I'd never buy the first model year of a new launch. Ever.
The UK makes more cars per year then it ever did - thanks to the Japanese transplanted factories. The same is true for the US. The two best selling sedans in the US the camry and Accord are both built in the US.
The Jaguar has been bought and sold by allot of companies. They have been known for their Un reliability and other problems. Ford is happy to sell them to the India company Tata motors. Also there cheaper land rover is junk also.
All I know be it GM of Europe or ford of Europe they are an american car maker and all the decisions come from Detroit or Dearborn Michigan end of story.
All I know be it GM of Europe or ford of Europe they are an american car maker and all the decisions come from Detroit or Dearborn Michigan end of story.
Any evidence or source to back up this assertion?
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