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Old 10-22-2014, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Who does a valve job any more? Or a ring job? Certainly not remotely close to being as common as they used to be.
I may not have done those but I have paid plenty to fix the EGR valve, O2 sensors, idle air control, and a half a dozen others that mysteriously trigger that pesky check engine light.
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Old 10-22-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I may not have done those but I have paid plenty to fix the EGR valve, O2 sensors, idle air control, and a half a dozen others that mysteriously trigger that pesky check engine light.
Just curious, in what kind of vehicles?

I must be having a run of remarkable luck, although I don't drive big miles and I have yet to own a car of this century but haven't done much but fluid/filter changes and replace consumables like tires, battery, etc.

Even if I didn't do my own work a repair shop wouldn't exactly be setting the world on fire with customers like me.
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Old 10-28-2014, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Old 10-29-2014, 04:41 AM
 
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Obsolescence, making things hard to fix and expensive to fix is being built into everything, both on purpose and coincidentally. Cars of today? LOL.... what's going to happen in ten years when all this electronic stuff starts breaking down. You look at something as simple as a car key. The key for the car I just sold cost about $5, the one I have now that just has a simple resistor in it is about $30 and the new ones are how many hundreds of dollars?
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Old 10-29-2014, 05:21 AM
 
Location: North Port, Florida
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Mazda 6 -- Hose/tubing leading to the EGR valve.

As the car got older the hose melted from the heat and the car started idling rough and flashing codes.

I practically killed myself trying to replace it. I couldn't see or reach it from under the hood or under the car.

I finally gave up (not easy for me) and took it to a good mechanic. It cost $400. as the entire Intake Manifold had to be removed. Even then he said he struggled.

On older model cars you could replace the EGR and Hose in 5 minutes and it might cost $10.00 or so.

That's Progress

Mikey
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Old 10-29-2014, 07:22 AM
 
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Mazda 6 -- Hose/tubing leading to the EGR valve.

As the car got older the hose melted from the heat and the car started idling rough and flashing codes.

I practically killed myself trying to replace it. I couldn't see or reach it from under the hood or under the car.

I finally gave up (not easy for me) and took it to a good mechanic. It cost $400. as the entire Intake Manifold had to be removed. Even then he said he struggled.

On older model cars you could replace the EGR and Hose in 5 minutes and it might cost $10.00 or so.

That's Progress

Mikey
That's why cars today have extended warranties on their emissions. Beyond three years 36,000 mile warranty.
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Old 10-29-2014, 07:39 AM
 
Location: NY
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Manufacturers have far more incentive to make things easier to assemble, than to repair. They have to assemble every car they make on their own dime, meanwhile they only need to repair a small fraction of them at their own cost during initial warranty periods.
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