Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:24 PM
 
2,776 posts, read 3,983,881 times
Reputation: 3049

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyRider View Post
12,000 mi/24 months for a 2015 Highlander XLE with MSRP $39,205

$2999 down and $437.64 a month.

They have a factory lease incentive running for $2999 down and $319 a month. I assume this is for their entry level LE which lists for about $35,000. Does $4000 more translate to $118 a month?
The numbers seem right. At the end of 24 months what is the buyout amount/residual value (and does that number make sense to you as well?).

12k miles per year is pretty standard, is that definitely within what you are likely to put on it? If you think there is even the remote possibility of exceeding 12k miles per year (and you won't want to buy the vehicle at lease end), see what the numbers look like at 15k miles per year as well. Everyone I've known with just one exception, has had issues keeping their mileage within their lease agreement... when you like a vehicle you always want to take it on road trips.

I am not a big fan of leasing overall. It would seem that you are looking for a 3 row vehicle and this one is rock solid, but..... consider that if you have a big family you will be hauling around in this vehicle, there are going to be a lot of interior parts that may break and/or need replacement due to kids just being kids. I'd rather own than be renting in that situation any day.

In your position I thus would consider leasing only if you are thinking about buying this vehicle in two years (perhaps planning to have the income/savings to do so at that time). I've done this with a similar vehicle and got a great deal. I wouldn't lease again because I did exceed the mileage limitations significantly (but I knew I was going to buy it so I just kept driving it when I saw this about to happen). As an alternative, just buy a lower end 3 row vehicle instead (perhaps used) as my experience suggests that no matter what you pay, your minivan is going to be abused by your family and will need repairs each and every year.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: O'Hara Twp.
4,359 posts, read 7,529,977 times
Reputation: 1611
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyRider View Post
AWD.

I just asked about the residual and the dealer said it is $29,000. What was your residual and was it a 2 year lease?
Sorry, I read your post too quickly. Ours is a 36 month lease.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:27 PM
 
2,775 posts, read 5,164,128 times
Reputation: 3673
Quote:
Originally Posted by oceangaia View Post
... What do you have after 60 months leasing?
no repair headaches...

I can see in some cases being better off leasing than owning.

As long as one can afford it, he would be better off leasing - drive a new car with no maintenance issues, what's wrong with that?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:35 PM
 
2,776 posts, read 3,983,881 times
Reputation: 3049
Quote:
Originally Posted by himain View Post
Guess what? You don't get to "keep it" till the bank mails you the title 60+ months from now. I always love it when people would tell me this: Oh I like to own my cars-Guess what?? NO title in hand, NO ownership!!!
You kind of have a great point... but seriously, even if you have payments on a vehicle, if you have financed-to-own, it is definitely different than leasing it (renting it). I've always paid off my financed property early... a well established pattern actually, so financing to own is a good option for me unless I feel like buying something outright. On a financial balance sheet your equity in a financed-to-own situation is counted as a positive... leased or rented items do not provide you with any equity opportunity.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:38 PM
 
4,833 posts, read 5,734,325 times
Reputation: 5908
You can negotiate the price on a lease just like if you were buying it outright or financing it. Talk the price down and then negotiate lease on that price, not MSRP

Also what is your money factor? Multiply by 2,400 to get interest rate
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Way up high
22,333 posts, read 29,427,518 times
Reputation: 31482
I've never leased for 60 months. Who in their right mind would do that? I've leased only for 36 months and this go around it's 24 months. I leased my brand new 2014 Mazda 6 last year for $3500 down at $385 a month at 12k miles per year for 36 months. Guess what? Exactly a year later, I traded that car in for a 2014 Lexus GS350 and I had $700 equity in it!!! I'd like to see you do that in a purchase...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:50 PM
 
4,833 posts, read 5,734,325 times
Reputation: 5908
Quote:
Originally Posted by himain View Post
I've never leased for 60 months. Who in their right mind would do that? I've leased only for 36 months and this go around it's 24 months. I leased my brand new 2014 Mazda 6 last year for $3500 down at $385 a month at 12k miles per year for 36 months. Guess what? Exactly a year later, I traded that car in for a 2014 Lexus GS350 and I had $700 equity in it!!! I'd like to see you do that in a purchase...
See the part in blue, that's where your "equity" came from

I say you came out far from ahead. In one year you lost $2800 ($3500-$700). We'll figure the $385/month were costs of owning/financing a vehicle so I won't throw that into the equation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
11,787 posts, read 17,769,587 times
Reputation: 10120
Quote:
Originally Posted by oceangaia View Post
Yes, you own it, title or not. Because you accrue equity in it. You can pay off the title and sell it, keeping the balance from the sale (unless you're upside down).
You can payoff a lease too. You can also sell a leased car. You can get a payoff quote at any time.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2014, 01:02 PM
 
23,177 posts, read 12,216,625 times
Reputation: 29354
Quote:
Originally Posted by 28173 View Post
no repair headaches...

I can see in some cases being better off leasing than owning.

As long as one can afford it, he would be better off leasing - drive a new car with no maintenance issues, what's wrong with that?
Monthly payments? Buy the right vehicle and take care of it, and the "repair headaches" will be far less than the eternal monthly lease payments. Especially at 60,000 miles.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2014, 01:03 PM
 
23,177 posts, read 12,216,625 times
Reputation: 29354
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tourian View Post
You can payoff a lease too. You can also sell a leased car. You can get a payoff quote at any time.
In other words, you can buy it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:58 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top