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These cars have the makings of very expensive money pits as i'm sure people who buy such vehicles new tend to use the power they provide, 10 years worth of burnouts and pedal to the metal driving dont instill confidence in the reliability factor of these cars.
The Mercedes would be a giant money pit for entirely different reasons. The Mustang is the only one I would expect that some kid drove it like he stole it.
Mustang is the only one I would expect that some kid drove it like he stole it.
I am going to sell my 12 5.0 GT in a year and a half right now it has 16,000 miles, it has never been on the drag strip and never will, never done a burnout, never raced anybody on the street. It has one session on the track in NY and it hit 140 mph a few times.
when I sell it will have around 25,000 miles.
I change the oil myself every 4,000 miles with Motorcraft filter and Oil.
Original wheels and tires with Brembos
Send me a PM in a year and a half and will let you be the lucky guy to purchase my well cared for 412 HP bone stock Mustang.
I notice from reading a few dedicated forums posts that the older muscle car guys prefer flywheel horsepower numbers but the newer generation prefer wheel horsepower numbers. It is like the older guys are still stuck back in time.
Because BHP is for stock motors with no modifications. Most people don't pull their motor out to test it's power output.
A friend of mine traded in for a 5.0 mustang. Bone stock it dynoed 368WHP on a mustang dynometer. I don't recall the torque, but it's probably similar being N/A. 412HP vs 368WHP. Pretty big difference in numbers. Granted, the dyno, and a host of other factors can play on how the results read.
Going from there he can compare the gains as he modifies. Again, he's not going to pull the motor to test power output at the crank, it'll be on a dyno, so it makes more sense to use WHP and WTQ.
I am going to sell my 12 5.0 GT in a year and a half right now it has 16,000 miles, it has never been on the drag strip and never will, never done a burnout, never raced anybody on the street. It has one session on the track in NY and it hit 140 mph a few times.
when I sell it will have around 25,000 miles.
I change the oil myself every 4,000 miles with Motorcraft filter and Oil.
Original wheels and tires with Brembos
Send me a PM in a year and a half and will let you be the lucky guy to purchase my well cared for 412 HP bone stock Mustang.
BTW not a kid.
That's great, and that's the kind of Mustang I'd love to buy, but if you traded your car in and then dealer that was turning it around tried to tell me about your story, I would roll my eyes and say "yeah, sure." And assume that it was probably the car that was doing donuts on our street corner every other weekend.
Because BHP is for stock motors with no modifications. Most people don't pull their motor out to test it's power output.
A friend of mine traded in for a 5.0 mustang. Bone stock it dynoed 368WHP on a mustang dynometer. I don't recall the torque, but it's probably similar being N/A. 412HP vs 368WHP. Pretty big difference in numbers. Granted, the dyno, and a host of other factors can play on how the results read.
Going from there he can compare the gains as he modifies. Again, he's not going to pull the motor to test power output at the crank, it'll be on a dyno, so it makes more sense to use WHP and WTQ.
I meant the old guys are living in the past with their BHP. High Performance Pontiac did a dyno run wih some classic to new GTOs and the classics did not do to well- 389, 400 Ram Air III, 455H.O. compared to the LS1 powered version.
I helped an acquaintaince rebuild a Pontiac 400 last year and when I visited the Pontiac forums for tech info. many of the builders were still in the '80s in terms of performance. Compared to them the new gen LSx, Modular and EFI 5.0 Fords owners are way,way ahead in terms of applying tech to modify their engines. I refer to using intake/head air flow, valve events,exhaust system selection etc. Well I visited a few Olds forums lately and at least regarding SBO builds they are savvy but not Pontiac street/strip folk.
I remember back in the 80,s when Audi had that unintended acceleration problem. After that Audi's sales went downhill fast for a while. You could pick up a 5000 Quattro for next to nothing.
The brake pedal and the gas pedal were too close to each other!
I am going to sell my 12 5.0 GT in a year and a half right now it has 16,000 miles, it has never been on the drag strip and never will, never done a burnout, never raced anybody on the street. It has one session on the track in NY and it hit 140 mph a few times.
when I sell it will have around 25,000 miles.
I change the oil myself every 4,000 miles with Motorcraft filter and Oil.
Original wheels and tires with Brembos
Send me a PM in a year and a half and will let you be the lucky guy to purchase my well cared for 412 HP bone stock Mustang.
BTW not a kid.
That would be like having a really hot GF that you don't sleep with. No thanks.
The brake pedal and the gas pedal were too close to each other!
Exactly, Some American's didn't grasp that & so Audi suffered for it.
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