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Old 04-08-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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I don't NEED to secure the car. If it sells in the 10 minutes it takes me to drive over there, well, there'll be another one along eventually. And lets face it - the chances that a car is going to sell in between the time you see it online and drive over there is pretty slim. If you get there and they say its sold now, it was probably sold before.

And handing out your credit card information is not secure. For one thing, unscrupulous dealers can use that information to run a credit check on you - thereby lowering your credit score.

A car dealership has absolutely NO need for my credit card info. You don't hand out your credit card info without a darn good reason - have you not read of all the database breaches, resulting in hundreds of thousands of people whose credit card data gets stolen? And that's from legitimate purchases, not blackmail on the part of a dealer to "hold" a car.

I was looking at a car on a dealers lot the other day - btw I HATE dealing with dealers, whether new or used cars, this is the first time I've been on a dealer's lot in over 30 years - and looking over the car as I would any used car.

The salesman says, "You don't seem very enthused by this car".

Well, no, I'm not. I don't get emotional about cars, at least not in the buying phase. But being calm and careful apparently translates to "I'm not at all interested" - or maybe its a disappointing sign that they are not going to be able to grab me by the emotions and manipulate me.

Which this guy didn't actually try to do - I kind of doubt he's going to stay a used car salesman for long. He was too nice and respectful.

His boss, however, came out and tried to jerk me around, you know, "Well if you don't buy it today, right now, it could be gone" (also the same guy who quoted me a price $1k over the price it was listed for on the Internet, after "consulting" his phone).

You know the lines, trying to scare you into buying now.

OK, so if its gone, its gone - there'll be another one. Besides, this one had high-ish mileage for its age, and it had obviously driven behind a gravel truck at some point and there was pitting - all the way through the paint to the bare metal, small, but distributed all over the hood and both fenders. I didn't want the car anyway, and I don't buy things on the spur of the moment.

I hate those guys. Jackals, really.



You can't run a credit check based on your credit card information and the dealer because of that can't impact your credit score. You seem overly paranoid. I don't care if my credit card information get stolen as it has nearly zero impact to me. Cxl/replace the card overnight and get credited back for the fraudulent charges it's really that simple
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Old 04-08-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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You can't run a credit check based on your credit card information and the dealer because of that can't impact your credit score. You seem overly paranoid. I don't care if my credit card information get stolen as it has nearly zero impact to me. Cxl/replace the card overnight and get credited back for the fraudulent charges it's really that simple
That seems pretty short-sighted. Personally, I'll continue to be careful with my credit card info - you can call it paranoid if you want, but its really just prudent.

As for whether or not they "can" run credit checks - they do. I have no idea how they manage it, but they do.
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Old 04-08-2015, 03:39 PM
 
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That seems pretty short-sighted. Personally, I'll continue to be careful with my credit card info - you can call it paranoid if you want, but its really just prudent.

As for whether or not they "can" run credit checks - they do. I have no idea how they manage it, but they do.


You can not run a credit check having someone's credit card.

It's not shortsighted I hold no risk for fraudulent transactions on my credit cards. I use my two main cc far more than most people and don't run into any issues if i have charges I didn't do.
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Old 04-08-2015, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I found this

Land Rover Range Rover | eBay

and

New 2015 Land Rover Range Rover 3.0L V6 Supercharged For Sale in Paramus NJ | | Glen Cove, Parsippany & Newark


but when i called, they said they dont have none under $94,000 (almost $10,000 more than ad).
The website also states.

"Prestige Land Rover Paramus will put a lien on NEW and PreOwned vehicles for a 10 month period to prevent vehicles from being exported outside of the United States. The lien will be satisfied after ten months of ownership or if the vehicle is traded back to Prestige Land Rover Paramus prior to the ten month waiting period. Only the original selling dealer can satisfy the lien release for the vehicle."



I live in the US. I dont want to export it, but i do want to be able to get my title before 10months, i was paying cash.
is this normal? is this a scam?
SCAM. Bait & Switch. The Lien release I have never heard of.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:40 PM
 
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This is the oldest trick in the book. If you want to have some fun with it, memorize that stock number and have a wander around the lot. Chances are you will find the car in question, then ask the salesman about it. When they tell you it's been sold or they can't find it, lead them to it, tell them it's fine, can we do the deal, watch them make funny salesperson faces
. Unless you get that guy who wants to make a sale more than the other guys want the bait around.

And yes, I have bought "that" car and it was a dang good deal.
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Old 04-10-2015, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Putting a deposit on a car makes no sense whatsoever unless the car is extremely rare or very highly anticipated such as the forthcoming Acura NSX.

That does sound like a scam to me; once you buy a new car and drive it off the lot, your only obligation to that dealer is to make the payments--that practice of placing a lien on it is absurd.
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Old 04-11-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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salesman keeps calling, trying to upsale me.
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Old 04-11-2015, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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quote=captne76;39137378]OP: You said $94,000 as in 94 thousand? I've bought houses with 1 1/2 acres of land for less than that. I hope that was a typo because no way would I put 94 grand on something you could wipe out going around the corner.[/quote]


Oh come-on now its a a a LAND ROVER ...
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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Putting a deposit on a car makes no sense whatsoever unless the car is extremely rare or very highly anticipated such as the forthcoming Acura NSX.

That does sound like a scam to me; once you buy a new car and drive it off the lot, your only obligation to that dealer is to make the payments--that practice of placing a lien on it is absurd.
Sure it makes sense. If it's a good deal and you can put it on hold by placing a temporary hold on your cc it very well can make sense. Saying it makes no sense whatsoever just isn't being objective
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Old 04-11-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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The lien release is just crazy. You paid for it and it's yours.

I wonder even if you satisfied the conditions how much hassle it will be getting them to release the lien. Do you just call them up and someone cheerfully sends you a lien release or do you have to drive down there and deal with someone who at the same time is trying hard to sell you next years model?

I hear their ads on the radio fairly often. So, this puts things a bit in perspective.
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