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Old 04-27-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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sounds legit since the OP has no link to back up any of the allegations
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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Can we just give California to Mexico?


We haven't yet?
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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sounds legit since the OP has no link to back up any of the allegations

A simple Google search will provide answers to both sides.
Absolutely nothing to worry about as the government is out to protect you.

But here is one opinion:

"Rumors have already spread about transmitting passenger data by seat sensors, banks allowed to “virtually repossess” vehicles for late payment, and police able to shut down vehicles of suspected felons. One could imagine other, more nefarious uses for the technology… stalkers with access to the data? Pre-emptive shutdowns of traffic in protests of large events? Controlled access to publicly-paid-for roads? It’s just like drone or NSA surveilance technologies… there may be sensible reasons to have the tech, but significant risks come with it as well. The future may not be pretty.
As technology advances we can always expect change, and it makes no sense to be scared in the face of change. On the other hand, it does make sense to be aware of powerful technologies that can fundamentally affect our society. OBD-3 is one to keep an eye on, and here are several sources to do so…"

LINK
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Old 04-27-2015, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Cars have had "black boxes" in them for years.
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Old 04-27-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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All I'm seeing in this thread is a group of overly paranoid and ignorant individuals. Pretty much every conspiracy theory has no legitimate sources and sounds like something a group of chemtrailers talk about when they aren't worried about airplanes. I don't know what's sadder, the initial BS being spouted by the OP or the subsequent posters who blindly believe and follow anything.

Here is the official stance on OBDIII directly from CARB:


"What is OBD III?
  • First, there is no such thing. There has been speculation about a new OBD program that would utilize remote transponders (like those currently used for automated bridges or toll roads) to send information indicating if any malfunctioning component is present in the vehicle in lieu of having the vehicle inspected at a Smog Check facility every one or two years. Many have referred to such a concept as OBD III. However, contrary to the rumors, no such program has been adopted by ARB nor have any decisions been made by ARB to pursue such an approach in California. The concept certainly exists and there are various products consumers can buy to remotely monitor their vehicle. Some other states are even pursuing pilot programs and allowing consumers who voluntarily equip their vehicles with such devices to be exempted from their inspection programs that are similar to California's Smog Check. These other states have pursued such approaches as additional ways to reduce consumer inconvenience and costs of participating in the inspection program."
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/obdprog/obdfaq.htm
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Old 04-27-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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A simple Google search will provide answers to both sides.
Absolutely nothing to worry about as the government is out to protect you.

But here is one opinion:

"Rumors have already spread about transmitting passenger data by seat sensors, banks allowed to “virtually repossess” vehicles for late payment, and police able to shut down vehicles of suspected felons. One could imagine other, more nefarious uses for the technology… stalkers with access to the data? Pre-emptive shutdowns of traffic in protests of large events? Controlled access to publicly-paid-for roads? It’s just like drone or NSA surveilance technologies… there may be sensible reasons to have the tech, but significant risks come with it as well. The future may not be pretty.
As technology advances we can always expect change, and it makes no sense to be scared in the face of change. On the other hand, it does make sense to be aware of powerful technologies that can fundamentally affect our society. OBD-3 is one to keep an eye on, and here are several sources to do so…"

LINK
i did google it... there is no legit source that suggests ODB-III exists, or is even in the works.
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Old 04-27-2015, 05:39 PM
 
Location: USA
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Can we just give California to Mexico?
Fargobound for President
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Old 04-27-2015, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Sandwich
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Can we just give California to Mexico?

LOL, whether OBDIII is true or not it would be just one of the many reasons.

Lou
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Old 04-27-2015, 09:33 PM
 
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How does the OBD3 ECM communicate with the police?

Would it be using wi-fi? That would mean that you would have to purchase an additional data plan for the police to be able tag your car as being uncompliant with emissions laws.

Oh, and I am highly allergic to wi-fi signals and wireless communication signals. Would be able to use medical excuse?

This just looks like an additional excise tax, tacked on by the DMV. As if insurance rates, vehicle tags and registration weren't already expensive enough.

It cost me $168 to renew my registration in NYC this year. $38 for my other car in PA.

And now with DMCA, you won't even be able to own your car anymore because the OEM's own the software that runs it.

You also won't be allowed to repair or modify your vehicle because of the DMCA.


Like police chasing a stolen car......with OBD3, they will have an electronics-unit that can send a signal and shut-down the vehicle........just like they do in that show Bait Car.
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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I had a 1995 Lincoln Town Car that was made in February of 1995 that already had OBDII.
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