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You were talking about all of those European cars that sold for all that money. I'm talking muscle car not sports cars.
No, I was replying to someone who was talking about European cars. If you pay a bit more attention you'll notice that a post prior to mine referenced the cost of a recently sold Ferrari 250 GTO. All I did was inform them of the dollar adjusted for inflation calculation that needs to take place to get a better estimate of the investment gain. Forums like this one often quote the body of the post to which you're replying to so you should have easily seen that I was replying to another user having nothing to do with yourself.
Here you go current value #9 and 10 same value see any imports on here "NO"
1. 1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 $425,000
2. 1971 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda $425,000
3. 1969 Dodge Hemi Charger Daytona $400,000
4. 1969 Ford Boss 429 Mustang $220,000
5. 1968 Ford Mustang GT500KR $130,000
6. 1970 Pontiac GTO Judge Ram Air IV $80,000
7. 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6 $75,000
8. 1970 Buick GSX Stage 1 $75,000
9. 1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD455 $75,000
10. 1970 Oldsmobile 442 W-30
You seem to be misunderstanding quite a few things lately, maybe some sleep or coffee is in order?
Here is what the person you're replying to said:
"Here's a question, is there any other cars of that era based on factory cars worth money like that? The GN's have a following and it's a desirable car, it holds a pretty unique place in car history."
You proceeded to list ten cars that are not in the same era as the 1980's GNX. If you're not sure what an era is, I recommend a Google search and some brief reading.
The one car that rivals the GNX is the 1989 Turbo Trans-Am TTA which was pretty much a 3RD Gen F-Body with the GNX 3.8 drivetrain back in the 809's Buick and Pontiac were going strong in terms of producing some of the fastest performance cars around in that era.
1989 was the biggest year for Pontiac with respect to press coverage, promotions, and performance. It was not well known at the time, but in 1989, Pontiac produced the quickest and fastest American production car.
The "Excitement Division" was also asked to provide a car to pace the 73rd running of the Indianapolis 500; sadly, it would be the final time a Pontiac would ever receive that honor.
The Trans Am model was now 20 years old, and it was time for another anniversary edition, with this special 20th Anniversary Trans Am to be based on the existing Trans Am GTA.
Through a unique partnership between Pontiac and an engineering firm called Prototype Automotive Services (PAS), the Trans Am GTA was equipped with a more powerful version of the turbocharged Buick 3.8L V6, originally developed for the Buick Regal Grand National, and the Turbo Trans Am (TTA) became the vehicle Pontiac supplied to pace the Indianapolis 500. Ultimately, 1,555 TTA replicas, rated at 250 hp, were produced for sale, five of those being test cars.
But after Car and Driver magazine tested the car, logging a 0–60 mph run in 4.6 seconds, and a standing quarter-mile in 13.4 seconds at 101 mph, they called the 250 hp rating "exceedingly modest," estimating the actual output to be "closer to 300 hp." They also subsequently reported that it was the "quickest 0–60 sprinter available in any US production-car showroom – at any price."
The Car and Driver evaluation produced the best acceleration performance of any main stream publication to test a regular TTA press car from the Pontiac fleet, partly because Car and Driver realized that the turbo boost must be "preloaded" to get maximum performance figures. But short-distance sprinting was not all this car could do well.
Early in 1989, Motor Trend ran their top speed test article "Flat-out Fastest American Cars II-the Sequel." During this test, the TTA did 162 mph, and was the fastest production car evaluated in the test. However, Motor Trend declared the winner to be a 1989 Corvette ZR-1, which went much faster, but was not a production car (it was a prototype that Chevrolet intended to release for production in 1989, but did not come out until 1990).
So by a slight technicality, the TTA could be called the flat-out quickest (0–60 4.6 sec.) and fastest (162 mph) American production car in 1989.
It is interesting to note that the only constraint on the top speed of 162 mph was that the TTA was being limited by the engine redline and automatic transmission (with which all TTA's were equipped). When PAS installed a ZF 6-speed manual transmission into one of the cars, they were able to reach 181 mph.
Perhaps more importantly than the performance tests provided by the industry magazines was the fact that these cars were capable of much faster acceleration times – with minimal modifications. In fact, with $300 in new parts installed, 12.5-second quarter-mile runs were achievable – without manually shifting gears or the need to trailer the vehicle to the track! Because of this, the TTA has gained a cult following among amateur racing enthusiasts.
I was talking muscle cars not sport cars, or luxury cars. American automakers made muscle cars, how many toyotas or nissans, or BMW do you see at the drag strip.
Really?
I guess you've never heard of the Toyota Supra, Nissan GTR, 300ZX/350Z/370Z, NSX, BMW M3, M5, 335, etc.
Here's a question, is there any other cars of that era based on factory cars worth money like that?
Most Porsche 911's from the 80's (930 series) fetch serious money. If it's a turbo version, some of them go for $250k or more if they are low mileage/restored.
Average price is probably around $150k for driven models. If it was a case like this GNX, with under 500 miles, you'd probably see pricing around $500k.
You seem to be misunderstanding quite a few things lately, maybe some sleep or coffee is in order?
Here is what the person you're replying to said:
"Here's a question, is there any other cars of that era based on factory cars worth money like that? The GN's have a following and it's a desirable car, it holds a pretty unique place in car history."
You proceeded to list ten cars that are not in the same era as the 1980's GNX. If you're not sure what an era is, I recommend a Google search and some brief reading.
There are none that from the 80's that are as valuable as that GNX. I'm talking American muscle cars I never heard of a foregin car called a muscle car. The reason that year of the GNX did follow the design changes the most other cars in the 80's did, it kept its 70's muscle car looks. It did not change much like the camaro, or the mustang, or the firebird.
There are none that from the 80's that are as valuable as that GNX. I'm talking American muscle cars I never heard of a foregin car called a muscle car. The reason that year of the GNX did follow the design changes the most other cars in the 80's did, it kept its 70's muscle car looks. It did not change much like the camaro, or the mustang, or the firebird.
What do you mean it kept it's 70's muscle car looks? The car as it sits there is a G-Body the same as the 1980's Monte Carlos, Grand Prix, Regals, and Cutlass Supreme...there's nothing particularly muscular about the overall shape...it's a shape that was made famous in the 1980's, it defines the 1980's...it doesn't belong to any other decade...and when you consider the 3.8L Turbocharged engine, it's not what any "muscle car" guy would describe as a typical muscle car power plant.
And you're right, you won't find european built muscle cars fetching that type of money, mostly because there are very few european muscle cars. The best I could come up with would be some of the early M series vehicles from BMW. But even still, they're sports sedans and sport coupes more than muscle cars.
Most Porsche 911's from the 80's (930 series) fetch serious money. If it's a turbo version, some of them go for $250k or more if they are low mileage/restored.
Average price is probably around $150k for driven models. If it was a case like this GNX, with under 500 miles, you'd probably see pricing around $500k.
Porsche is a sports car not a muscle car sure these vintage European sports cars fetch top dollars but we are talking muscle car. Show me a true European muscle car that has the looks of a challanger all beefed up or a GNX or a mustang cobra, or a Comaro, or a firebird. I have never seen one when I go to the Woodward dream cruise and that is the largest muscle car show in the country and I have been there many times and I have never seen a European or Asian muscle car. They are sports cars American cars are muscle I'm a boomer we grew up with these cars we had them. I never seen a European or Asian muscle car when I was 16 back in the 70's they were all the big 3 cars and AMC.
Porsche is a sports car not a muscle car sure these vintage European sports cars fetch top dollars but we are talking muscle car. Show me a true European muscle car that has the looks of a challanger all beefed up or a GNX or a mustang cobra, or a Comaro, or a firebird. I have never seen one when I go to the Woodward dream cruise and that is the largest muscle car show in the country and I have been there many times and I have never seen a European or Asian muscle car. They are sports cars American cars are muscle I'm a boomer we grew up with these cars we had them. I never seen a European or Asian muscle car when I was 16 back in the 70's they were all the big 3 cars and AMC.
Seriously, just stop talking. You're looking more and more foolish with every post.
I guess this doesn't count as a European muscle car either.
The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines muscle cars as "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving."[2] A large V8 engine is fitted in a 2-door, rear wheel drive, family-style mid-size or full-size car designed for four or more passengers. Sold at an affordable price, muscle cars are intended for street use and occasional drag racing.[3][4][5][6] They are distinct from two-seat sports cars and expensive 2+2 GTs intended for high-speed touring and road racing.
I know Merriam Webster is wrong right. Now who is the fool. I guess you are to young to know the difference.
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