Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-02-2015, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Here and there....
224 posts, read 456,620 times
Reputation: 169

Advertisements

It looks to me like that tensioner is integral to the motor mount, requiring it's complete replacement. Which might also require removing a few other things. Heres a rundown on the whole job....

http://www.justanswer.com/dodge/7dze...er-pulley.html

Read about this persons experience getting it off...
chronoscender.freeservers.com - Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler Neon Timing Belt Page

Quote:
Now... I consider this next step to be the hardest part of the whole operation. If you can get past this, you can easily accomplish the rest of the task. See the big aluminum plate attached to the engine? That is the engine mount plate and it must be removed, however you will probably have noticed that only one of the bolts that hold it has enough clearance to even get a wrench on it. According to AlldataDIY, the engine must be raised "slightly" in order to acquire sufficient clearance to remove the bolts. By the time you have raised the engine up enough remove the bolts you will be quite scared that you are going to break something by having the engine at that angle. Get used to it though, because by the time you are done you will have to raise and lower the engine many times in order to create the clearance you need for various jobs.

Once you have removed the three bolts that secure the mount plate, you have to then get it out of the confined space it is in... another highly amusing proposition. I nearly broke the timing belt cover getting it out, but I finally got it loose.
Then you have to install the new one. 3hrs is sounding pretty reasonable to me, and is probably book time.

Maybe ask your mechanic about cheaper motor support plate options. Also consider that your shop might not to risk it's reputation using less than factory quality parts. Their call. Get a couple estimates from other shops, always a prudent idea.

And be careful about whose advice you take on forums... including me. I would guess more than one of the above responses were thinking this job was 2 bolts and done, 30 minutes. Don't discredit your mechanic because someone you don't know who didn't know what they were talking about spouted off in an internet forum.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-02-2015, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Houston
26,979 posts, read 15,892,870 times
Reputation: 11259
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumf View Post
Several years ago I moved to Tampa Florida, not knowing anybody.
I had a car with a few years and a lot of miles on it, and needed some work.
I went to my local auto parts store to price what I needed, to get an idea of what the repair would cost.
While I was there, I was talking to the store's manager, and asked if he knew a good local, honest 'shade tree' mechanic.
About the time he started telling me a guys name, he walked in the door.
He was, I say respectfully, the ugliest guy I've ever met. He'd been rode hard and put up wet. All six of his teeth were about gone... He was a site - again, I say very respectfully...
I introduced myself to him, told him what I needed and the next thing you know I'm buying those parts, putting them in my trunk, and following him back to his house where he put them in (Motor mounts for a '99 Chrysler Sebring Convertible).
I don't remember what he charged me, but the cost of the parts were more than the labor.
Vince did an excellent job and my car was back to normal in no time, and I was very happy with the price.
From that point on, every time I needed any work done on my car, he'd get my business, and his service and price were far beyond making me happy...
So, do as I did, check with your local parts supply store and ask for a good shade tree mechanic, and give them a try.
I know not everyone will be that lucky, but it's worth a shot...
As for your quote: as others have said, your 'mechanic' is trying to empty your wallet... into his.

This is Vince. I ain't that ugly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-02-2015, 10:52 PM
 
4,361 posts, read 7,178,523 times
Reputation: 4866
I've done a few of these, it takes 2-3 hours because a lot of components have to be removed. Someone who has done many of them can probably do it in less than 2 hours. The tensioner assembly is integrated with a large casting. It's not your typical tensioner/idler swap. However, $500 is simply too much for the part. That's probably the cost of a dealer part with markup. Using an OE part is pointless on a 14 year old car. A fair price with a decent markup is more like $200.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-03-2015, 01:28 AM
 
1,156 posts, read 1,968,518 times
Reputation: 2136
Reminds me of the time when I took my Sunfire to one of the garages around here and they told me I needed a new fuel pump. To the tune of $580. Told em unless it was diamond encrusted gold they could stuff it, went else where and had one put in for half that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-03-2015, 05:39 AM
 
Location: UpstateNY
8,612 posts, read 10,765,774 times
Reputation: 7596
OP, here's the belt setup showing the tensioner. Ditch your mechanic, he's taking advantage. Complete 'systems' of operation rarely need replacing, only individual parts do.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-03-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan
2,259 posts, read 4,754,204 times
Reputation: 2346
at that price you could probably get another Neon
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-03-2015, 08:29 PM
 
4,361 posts, read 7,178,523 times
Reputation: 4866
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCc girl View Post
OP, here's the belt setup showing the tensioner. Ditch your mechanic, he's taking advantage. Complete 'systems' of operation rarely need replacing, only individual parts do.
The spring loaded idler arm is not serviceable. Your picture does not show everything that needs to be replaced if the idler spring is broken or worn out.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2015, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Here and there....
224 posts, read 456,620 times
Reputation: 169
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCc girl View Post
OP, here's the belt setup showing the tensioner. Ditch your mechanic, he's taking advantage. Complete 'systems' of operation rarely need replacing, only individual parts do.
You did just enough research to give bad advice. Do you know whats required to get to the bolt that holds that pulley on? Do you also realize the pulley isn't the problem, it's the spring?

People are so willing to offer advice when they don't know what they're talking about.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2015, 05:16 PM
 
Location: SW Corner of CT
2,706 posts, read 3,381,599 times
Reputation: 3646
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbeefy View Post
You did just enough research to give bad advice. Do you know whats required to get to the bolt that holds that pulley on? Do you also realize the pulley isn't the problem, it's the spring?

People are so willing to offer advice when they don't know what they're talking about.
Don't know what it takes to get to these parts.....but I've seen two dollar parts that you could swear they built the car around
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2015, 09:06 PM
 
2,156 posts, read 3,594,283 times
Reputation: 3447
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbeefy View Post
You did just enough research to give bad advice. Do you know whats required to get to the bolt that holds that pulley on? Do you also realize the pulley isn't the problem, it's the spring?

People are so willing to offer advice when they don't know what they're talking about.
My thoughts exactly.

Don in Austin
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:29 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top