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No you're missing the point. The domestics are at the back because they're either not worth fixing or there just aren't enough left on the road to drive demand.
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You should to listen, Eddie, Notnamed is telling you the truth.
The Big 3 cannot favorably compare with "foreign" carmakers when it comes to reliability and longevity and the numbers bear it out.
In the fine print: "Here’s the iSeeCars list, in order of most to least ads featuring cars with more than 200,000 miles."
Cars that were sold in high volumes when new are likely to be the most-advertised on Craigslist and elsewhere when used, and to be the most advertised with over 200,000 miles.
It does not mean that the cars being sold are reliable, only that there are still more of them on the road because there were more of them when they were new.
(Almost) any car will last 200,000 miles if you want it to, unless it's totaled in a crash. My last car went 300,000 miles and was still mechanically reliable. My current car has almost 600,000 miles and my goal is to put 800,000 on it. I may pay more for repairs, that is, for parts that wear out, but I'm not paying for depreciation or full-coverage insurance.
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Ford is the only domestic brand I would even consider. At least they create their own cars and have sold well in Europe for decades. My wife's 2007 Focus hasn't had any problems so far at 140k miles. GM's non truck vehicles are mostly rebadged Daewoos, literally. Daewoo stopped selling cars with their own name 15 years ago because of their reputation.
I owned a 1994 Oldmobile Achieva and a 1994 Chevy S 10 and they were both garbage at 150k miles. I have had Toyotas with 250k that didn't need half as many repairs. My 11 year old 150k Toyota Camry is absolutely repair free. I am considering Nissan or Mazda for my next vehicle as Toyota's are pretty bland stylingwise.
American cars have made a great leap forward. However, I still don't know which cars are more long-lasting and give less trouble in getting to the 200k mile mark - German cars or American cars.
GM is making less and less cars in the US, more and more made overseas. Too many rebadge jobs and often too many hidden timebombs. American cars have made big strides but still too inconsistent across the board. You can't trust a car company that gets away with deaths and no punishment for their bad designs while the government keeps penalizing better car companies for ludicrous issues.
All you have to do is look at all the cop cars, taxis, ambulances and commercial vehicles with 100s of thousands of miles on them to know "American" cars can last.
Like I said, every manufacture makes cars that last and makes cars that don't.
You have to know which ones to buy and which ones not to buy and the manufacture is not the best clue.
All you have to do is look at all the cop cars, taxis, ambulances and commercial vehicles with 100s of thousands of miles on them to know "American" cars can last.
Like I said, every manufacture makes cars that last and makes cars that don't.
You have to know which ones to buy and which ones not to buy and the manufacture is not the best clue.
Majority of the fleet taxis in NYC have switched to Toyota, Subaru, VW, Nissan.
Cop and government cars gets maintained by their own people, it doesn't matter how crappy any car is as long as they are being actively maintained and fixed by workers.
Taxis are switching more for economy reasons than anything with respect to mpg which is usually one of the top two largest expense, depreciation being the other. Some entire taxi services use Prius now.
Before this town cars and the like went 300-400k miles on the original drivetrains with just normal maintenance and the occasional minor fix. That is as reliable as anything else.
All cars require maintenance.
As a matter of fact what I am seeing is with the increased manufacure suggested maintenance intervals, parts aren't lasting as long. Now they last longer than the average person keeps their new car, but ultimately parts are failing sooner than they should just because manufactures want to be able to show their cars require less maintenance when people compare cars while buying and doing research. You really are seeing this with transmissions and their life time fills and with 10-15k oil change intervals.
Majority of the fleet taxis in NYC have switched to Toyota, Subaru, VW, Nissan.
Cop and government cars gets maintained by their own people, it doesn't matter how crappy any car is as long as they are being actively maintained and fixed by workers.
A friend used to work in the maintenance/repair division of the California Highway Patrol. Back when most of the Highway Patrol cars were the Crown Victoria. He said that almost always cars were in the shop area for normal maintenance... brakes, tires, air filters, hoses, belts, etc. Very rare when there was a major engine or transmission problem.
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