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Old 07-10-2015, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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WE have often talked about German cars & the fact that they are not very reliable after 70,000 miles.
I was watched a video of the new Golf R the other day & someone mentioned that fact to someone who lives in Germany. The person responded back by saying that perhaps it's the people who service the cars & not the cars themselves. I was in Germany a long time ago & saw a lot of older German cars running around that I am sure had way over 70,000 miles on them I can see a lot of truth to this.
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:00 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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I would say is more due to the owners, and people not keeping up with maintenance on their cars.
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:11 AM
 
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I would say is more due to the owners, and people not keeping up with maintenance on their cars.

That can be a factor as well even more if they can't afford it. German cars or not it's hard to get someone who knows what they are doing to work on ANY car & get it right. And of course not rip you off.
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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I own two BMW's one has 106K and the other 65K. I have had ZERO problems with either. I do my own maintenance (oil, brakes)
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I receive outstanding service for my VW.

But I do my own work
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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. I was in Germany a long time ago & saw a lot of older German cars running around that I am sure had way over 70,000 miles on them I can see a lot of truth to this.
If you saw "a lot of older German cars" still on the road ... be assured that they were the pride and joy and economic sinkhole of their owners.

In Germany, one must comply with TUV inspections performed by certified shops to keep an older car on the road.

The stuff you only read about in the factory maintenance manuals here in the USA, inspections of all the components which is rarely performed here, must be done and documented. You cannot do this inspection yourself. With the prospect that you can take a vehicle out on the roads to the capabilities that it was built to do, you must periodically have the car inspected to prove that it is safe for the car to do so to it's original specs. It's a thorough and expensive enough process that it's a mark of affluence that somebody has an older vehicle on the road at all. Historically, it's been less expensive to replace a vehicle with a new one than try to keep an older vehicle on the road once the car reached an age where it needed the major inspections.

PS: "bad service" on motor vehicles isn't the exclusive domain of German cars. I see poor diagnostics, workmanship, and outright guesswork of the lowest abilities inflicted on all makes/models of cars.
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Old 07-10-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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I've owned 2 german cars in the past (BMW & Audi) and both gave me nightmares when it came time for repairs. Leasing is the way to go if you want to drive a German automobile unless you're handy and can do all the work yourself.
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Old 07-10-2015, 09:22 AM
 
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Buy or lease a BMW for 3 years, take advantage of its free maintenance program for the first 4 years. Sell or return the BMW in 3 years before it starts failing for the next sucker to deal with it.
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Old 07-10-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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Buy or lease a BMW for 3 years, take advantage of its free maintenance program for the first 4 years. Sell or return the BMW in 3 years before it starts failing for the next sucker to deal with it.

lol I think the screen name is fitting!

My 2010 BMW just rolled over 100k with no issues.
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Old 07-10-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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lol I think the screen name is fitting!

My 2010 BMW just rolled over 100k with no issues.

Granted, some people are just plain lucky.
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