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Old 11-04-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Regardless if they are legal or not, I am very much concerned about continued resale value. I don't keep my cars long at all in most experiences, but I don't know if necessarily the tarnished image due to the diesel scandals would hurt my base Cayenne resale. I just don't know if I am willing to take that risk.
In my opinion, there exists the possibility of actual ADDED value (reduced depreciation rate), particularly with the diesels; anything produced post "dieselgate" will have reduced performance due to now having to adhere to regulations. Functionally, there exists no flaw; what exists is literally an OEM 'performance' tune. Enthusiasts and consumers alike will want this over the detuned versions to follow.
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Old 11-04-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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In my opinion, there exists the possibility of actual ADDED value (reduced depreciation rate), particularly with the diesels; anything produced post "dieselgate" will have reduced performance due to now having to adhere to regulations. Functionally, there exists no flaw; what exists is literally an OEM 'performance' tune. Enthusiasts and consumers alike will want this over the detuned versions to follow.
Not necessarily, Lux Hauler . . .

After the dust has settled with this blatant / arrogant fiasco, VW will more than likely be required to "fix" all of the Emissions Illegal Vehicles as part of the settlement.

Also, many major areas require Emissions Testing and these vehicles will be flagged during test or maybe even by the DMV upon registration renewal.

In either case, I personally would stay clear of any of these vehicles until the issues have been addressed which would have a negative effect on the resale value.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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Not necessarily, Lux Hauler . . .

After the dust has settled with this blatant / arrogant fiasco, VW will more than likely be required to "fix" all of the Emissions Illegal Vehicles as part of the settlement.
Sure, not necessarily... Even so, how much depreciation could an emissions recall cause... Simple reflash, all done. Any recent precedent for such an incident?
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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Sure, not necessarily... Even so, how much depreciation could an emissions recall cause... Simple reflash, all done. Any recent precedent for such an incident?
You're not taking into account the likely loss in MPG and performance from said reflash, not so simple when you figure those in.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:31 AM
 
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Sure, not necessarily... Even so, how much depreciation could an emissions recall cause... Simple reflash, all done. Any recent precedent for such an incident?
Good point, Lux Hauler . . . but how would the "simple reflash" compromise the performance?

In any case, I cannot believe this fiasco will benefit VW in the long haul.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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Good point, Lux Hauler . . . but how would the "simple reflash" compromise the performance?
You're altering engine parameters to result in fewer emissions, that's going to come with some kind of cost in performance and/or mileage
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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Good points made here; however, as much as I admire Audi and Porsche diesel SUVs and sedans, I would be worried that they would not pass state inspections as they would be "flagged".
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Not really very many cars covered with that engine though.
No but it shows that they lied even after the initial scandal and brings to light that there may still be more to uncover.

After the scandal broke on the 2.0Ls they tried to distance Porsche by saying they did their own testing and didn't just rely on parent company Volkswagens.

The 3.0Ls are supposed to have a more sophisticated urea based system that VW claimed the 2.0Ls didn't need which ultimately saved them a bunch of money.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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I could care less about the emissions of any car I purchase. As long as it passes state inspection, it is good to go.
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