What you HATE about new cars (xenon, Saab, Subaru, compared)

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by NHDave

An excellent argument

LOL! I quoted you because I have the same question: How are LEDs any safer?

[LeagleEagleDFW]

Originally Posted by IShootNikon

I've never driven a car with this feature but I'm sure it would bother the hell out of me. Had a BMW next to me with this feature the other day. I could hear it start up when the light turned green.

Wondering what the tolerances are for this feature. If you are in stop-and-go traffic on the highway and come to a dead stop for even a millisecond does it turn off your car. How long from a dead stop before the car shuts itself off?

My BMW does it. It doesn't bother me that much. I can flip the gearshift over to sport mode to disable in start and stop traffic, and I can press a button above the start button to permanently disable the feature.

Otherwise, it depends on a number of factors. If it's 50 degrees out and I have the windows down, it shuts the engine off pretty immediately. If it's 102 and I have the A/C blasting, it almost never shuts it off. If it's in-between, it'll stop the engine after a bit, but then kick it back on (even if I'm still at a light) if it senses the air getting too warm.

People on here make a huge deal about this, and it really is barely noticeable 99.9% of the time. That .01% is easy to adjust to.

[LeagleEagleDFW]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

LOL! I quoted you because I have the same question: How are LEDs any safer?

The LEDs are my car definitely brighter and more noticeable than even standard HIDs.

[NHDave]

Originally Posted by LeagleEagleDFW

The LEDs are my car definitely brighter and more noticeable than even standard HIDs.

That doesn't make them safer, excessive brightness in the dark is just the opposite.

[sirtiger]

Originally Posted by NHDave

That doesn't make them safer, excessive brightness in the dark is just the opposite.

mines auto adjust

[NHDave]

Originally Posted by sirtiger

mines auto adjust

So you have LED head, parking, and tail lights and the brightness of all these lights adjust themselves?

[LeagleEagleDFW]

Originally Posted by NHDave

That doesn't make them safer, excessive brightness in the dark is just the opposite.

Safer for me as I can see more, safer for other people as it makes it easier to see me. They aren't 10,000,000 candlepower spotlights.

[NHDave]

Originally Posted by LeagleEagleDFW

Safer for me as I can see more, safer for other people as it makes it easier to see me. They aren't 10,000,000 candlepower spotlights.

LEDs are no easier to see at night than standard incandescent lighting.

[LeagleEagleDFW]

Originally Posted by NHDave

LEDs are no easier to see at night than standard incandescent lighting.

If they are brighter....which they are....that means they are easier to see. They are also easier to see in the daytime, which is probably more important.

[NHDave]

Originally Posted by LeagleEagleDFW

If they are brighter....which they are....that means they are easier to see.

If you say so