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Forecast straight from City-duck: I believe the States will pass a law requiring black boxes mounted in every vehicle on the road. How soon? I don't know.
For those that don't know about black boxes: it's simply a camera (or multiple) normally mounted behind the front windshield of your car.
The purpose of a black box is to record, at all times, your driving activity. It's benefits are to provide comprehensive coverage of driving activity in the event an accident occurs. The ramifications means more concrete data for insurance claims, lowering investigation and other costs immensely.
If a whole nation implements black boxes in each and every car on the road, it would be very easy to find out who was at fault for anything, whether it be the common fender bender or a pedestrian hit-and-run. This is primarily because they would all uplink to a main database that insurance companies would be able to access.
I'd like to know what Americans think of this idea. South Korea already implements this, and the results are staggering. Black box footage is so popular it has its own segments on tv in the county.
Me personally, I think they do more good than harm. I just have qualms about why they need to record audio, too...
Another Trojan horse that can be easily used for reasons other than what it is sold as.
Some cultures do not worry about Big Brother, so they couldn't care less about being monitored 24/7/365. Our country is headed down that path, but there are a decent amount of us who resist being treated like sheep.
You listed what you perceive to be it's attributes, but failed to list the potential negatives. You just list a general concern about why audio would need to be included. [Hint] There are many privacy issues that I can think of, with audio recordings being just one of them.
Lets see what you come up with?
As an FYI, there has been black boxes in some cars going back at least a decade. It's primary purpose was to collect data such as speed, braking, etc. in the event of an accident. They do not have GPS, nor any camera/audio capability.
Those of us who were aware of it had them disabled, because there was no government mandate they be used.
Even if there was, I'd likely have disabled mine because as a free man in a free country, I do not need the government being a nanny over my life.
1. No thanks
2. Who pays for these sytems -camera(s), uploading, data storage, monitoring? ME
3. Will insurance companies lower rates? NO
4. Will my data be taken for accidents that do not involve me? YES
4. Will this data be used for other purposes besides accidents? YES
5. What is next? More monitoring? maybe add a mic too see what I was talking about? a camera on the driver and the passengers?
Why would I want to pay more money to make insurance companies more money?
IMO, the issue that first comes to mind with EDR and OBDIII is it does nothing to record data on hit and runs.
Let's say you're in a busy intersection and you failed to completely stop before making a right turn and end up hitting a pedestrian on their bike. Your airbags don't go off so there's no indication that you were in a collision. There would also be no evidence in a scenario that the pedestrian was possibly conducting an insurance scheme by purposely placing themselves in front of you.
What good does EDR (NON V-EDR) or OBDIII do these situations? Wouldn't cameras in every car's dash be more helpful in knowing the exact details of this accident?
And wouldn't dash cams be easier to implement in older vehicles rather than retrofitting OBDIII into them (if that is even possible?)
Oh c'mon. Simply install a dash cam. Dual camera if you want to, like I have.
How much data can or would be stored? Just the previous seconds prior to an accident or will it have all vehicle activity for years prior? Because even if you weren't shown to be at fault in a particular accident but shows you have a long term pattern of driving ?recklessly? then it could be a problem for the driver.
This country has so many laws already it's mind boggling. Soon it will get to a point where we will have to call the police to check in every day and ask what we are allowed to do that day.
OBDIII is only in the planning stages. The stated purpose is to make sure vehicles that will fail an emissions test will get fixed.
With technology changing so rapidly these "black boxes" will become mandatory. Same as the airplanes.
Of course civil libertarians will be against all of this.
But national security will trump all of this.
No one or few will vote against national security.
The story will go something like - we have to catch the terrorists driving in vehicles. The law enforcement agencies will need to power to find a vehicle and to shut down a vehicle. For national security.
Will be interesting which way the Republican and Democrats - House of Representatives - vote on this.
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