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If done properly, it does, since the roll-center will be lower, with proper suspension setup, not just cutting springs, slamming,or stancing out.
I still say a good driver with a stock car will still whoop your azz in a road course.
I've seen plenty of these " fast" looking cars that couldn't get out of their own way on the highway. Lots of noise and shifting but not much acceleration. I guess noisy means fast today. And lowering a car makes it less practical. I've been stuck behind these guys with cars so low they have to go almost parallel to the driveway to get in a parking lot.
And it takes them forever.
Eibach makes lowering springs for that car (well, they are for the Mercury Marauder, which is the same basic thing) that make it lower and handle better (I've used their springs on my BMWs before). These cars work VERY well with a 1.5"-2" drop. It won't ruin them at all. You CAN do a 1.5" drop on the stock shocks with no pogoing (sorry, but that happens when you lower the car to the bumpstops, not merely using good condition stock shocks). And yes, if you can't find any aftermarket springs for a car, you CAN cut the springs, as that won't change the temper of the spring (do NOT use a torch or heat the coils as that can cause embrittlement and cause the springs to crack) and will lower the car AND increase the spring rate. Just don't cut off more than an inch and a half of height on the front, and no more than 2" in the rear. This gives a better than stock ride, good handling, and won't pogo around even on stock shocks (though I'd definitely look into KYB shocks or the like).
I still say a good driver with a stock car will still whoop your azz in a road course.
I've seen plenty of these " fast" looking cars that couldn't get out of their own way on the highway. Lots of noise and shifting but not much acceleration. I guess noisy means fast today. And lowering a car makes it less practical. I've been stuck behind these guys with cars so low they have to go almost parallel to the driveway to get in a parking lot.
And it takes them forever.
1.5-2" lowering isn't impractical nor will it hold you up. Some of you guys are really ignorant about lowered cars. I've had lowered cars before, including my last BMW daily driver that was lowered 2" and it was still practical, rode great, handled better than stock and never held anyone up.
This was 2" lower than stock:
We're not talking about slamming a car lower than it's bumpstops normally allow here. Just a tasteful, reasonable, functional lowering. Please, learn something and stop sputing nonsense if you have this little direct experience. I've lowered hundreds of cars, for myself and customers, for street use, track use, and show use. I'm getting ready to put coilovers on my current BMW to both lower it a good amount and to improve handling and ride. It'll duplicate my friend's E38 stance:
And it'll be 2.5" front and 2" rear drop just like that.
Eibach makes lowering springs for that car (well, they are for the Mercury Marauder, which is the same basic thing) that make it lower and handle better (I've used their springs on my BMWs before). These cars work VERY well with a 1.5"-2" drop. It won't ruin them at all. You CAN do a 1.5" drop on the stock shocks with no pogoing (sorry, but that happens when you lower the car to the bumpstops, not merely using good condition stock shocks). And yes, if you can't find any aftermarket springs for a car, you CAN cut the springs, as that won't change the temper of the spring (do NOT use a torch or heat the coils as that can cause embrittlement and cause the springs to crack) and will lower the car AND increase the spring rate. Just don't cut off more than an inch and a half of height on the front, and no more than 2" in the rear. This gives a better than stock ride, good handling, and won't pogo around even on stock shocks (though I'd definitely look into KYB shocks or the like).
Seems Eibach has discontinued lowering springs for the Marauder :-(.
If done properly, it does, since the roll-center will be lower, with proper suspension setup, not just cutting springs, slamming,or stancing out.
if properly done is key, and there is such a thing as lowering a car too much.
Gotta also keep in mind suspension geometry and how that changes as the car is lowered. usually spring rates and damper rates need to be adjusted as well to compensate, and then there's camber issues sometimes associated with dropping a car.
You can slam a car to the ground and claim it handles better since roll center is better, but it's not going to do you any good if your struts are bottoming out over each dip and bump.
I've autocrossed in cars that were not lowered properly and yeah...i'd bet a stock suspension car would be faster. Seems most people want to be low, but don't want to spend the $1K or so to do it right. So out comes the cutting disk, the car drops 2" and the owner proclaims it as handling better. But, spring rates are perfect, struts are bottoming out, camber is so bad the tires wear badly and the new suspension geometry can affect CV axles as well causing boots to tear and grease to leak out.
Wow. That's a nice car. Why do you want to ruin it by lowering it? If you want a firmer ride just get police package suspension. Or you can try to find a Marauder suspension replacement. I wouldn't lower it. I would love to have that as my dd. I drive about 100 a day. A nice soft ride is exactly what the doctor ordered. I think you'll be sorry you hacked it up.
Cops seem to have no problem whipping those things around corners and they aren't lowered. I bet if you spent the money on a car handling/performance driving school you'll be able to do more with a stock car than these dummies with lowered Hondas ever will. A lowered car doesn't mean better handling.
Yeah, I second that. It's easy to beef up an existing suspension without changing the geometry.
If someone wants to change geometry it can be done, I am sure. But the OP had better bring his checkbook!
Why? I would seriously consider some low profile 245s or 255s with the 18" Marauder rims. There you go, instant lowering and handling improvement. Oh, and it will STILL look stock. Chevy did the same thing with the B-Body Impala's, 255s all around.
Why? I would seriously consider some low profile 245s or 255s with the 18" Marauder rims. There you go, instant lowering and handling improvement. Oh, and it will STILL look stock. Chevy did the same thing with the B-Body Impala's, 255s all around.
Have considered this. The OEM Marauder wheels aren't cheap though.
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you could slap a some CV LX Sport wheels on there, gotta be cheaper than Marauder 18s.
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R: Lowering should be done correctly.
