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Old 02-09-2016, 02:39 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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I really don't see what the big deal is. You always hear about how "true" auto enthusiasts have to have a manual.

I just roll my eyes at that, F1 drivers don't shift their cars with a traditional manual, they use steering wheel paddles, and they're the best drivers on earth.
Correction, they are the best drivers racing in the open wheel series that is not Indy Car or Sprint Cars
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Old 02-09-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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Correction, they are the best drivers racing in the open wheel series that is not Indy Car or Sprint Cars
Indy car drivers also have paddle shifters. Not sure about Sprint cars.

Either way, the best drivers in the world are not using a regular manual transmission, and haven't for a very long time.
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Old 02-09-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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Yeah but those paddle shifters are a far cry from the paddle shifters on most automatics for sale to the public, which really aren't all that different from the old d-4-3-2-L selector. Still a torque converter robbing power behind it. VW's DSG is an example of a good one. I tried to compromise on one of those for a couple years but sold it to get back in a stick.
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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It's cuz most new cars have shiftable transmissions. Though it does not give your R hand same feeling of grasp on that stick, yet works quite well. Wife's RX has it and I just had a loaner Camry with same. It's a bit odd to use pedal shifters, but works fine.
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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A. Auto transmissions shift faster than any human so automatic performance cars run faster track times.
B. If you live in a city like I Do, shifting gears in 2 hours of traffic is a nightmare.
C. Stick is fun for a weekend car but as a daily driver? No thanks.
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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A. Auto transmissions shift faster than any human so automatic performance cars run faster track times.
Um. No.
Gearing differences can make some autos faster in the 0-60. But for most cases the manuals are faster as they have more power at the wheels with less drivetrain loss.
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:51 PM
 
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Um. No.
Gearing differences can make some autos faster in the 0-60. But for most cases the manuals are faster as they have more power at the wheels with less drivetrain loss.
Not true in 2016, unless you're a professional race car driver who never makes mistakes You're not beating today's Auto's.
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Old 02-09-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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Automatics are generally more responsive, more fuel-efficient, and lead to better performance these days, unless you're talking about cheapo entry-level cars.
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Old 02-09-2016, 04:01 PM
 
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Yeah, it is. For instance the Accord is significantly faster to 60 and in the 1/4 in the manual vs the auto.

But it isn't true on a VW GTI with the DSG as that is significantly faster than the best manual drivers.

Difference being the VW is an automated manual with a clutch. More typical torque converter autos and CVTs are still behind.
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Old 02-09-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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I have a 98 Frontier, manual transmission. It finally is deciding to kick the bucket at 150,000 miles. The timing chain is going, so hubby wants to get new. I'll go for an automatic. My arthritis is starting to complain to me about all the work of a manual
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