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Old 02-23-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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The consumer when it comes to that market share is largely middle aged male and not as easy to manipulate as a first time car buyer, or female looking for basic transportation. That's largely how Toyota has grabbed so much of the market share. Simply feeding off of the myth that they produce a more reliable product, which again going by facts and figures, is indeed a myth.

First to the "CANT kill a Toyota" comment. Trust me, you can 'kill' a Toyota same as anything else. We're living in the 21'st century, any one of the major manufacturers can produce a vehicle that you can abuse to an extent.

As for the choice of vehicles for 80% of the world, that alone doesn't grant them superiority status. For example, full size American trucks aren't allowed to be sold anywhere on Japanese soil due to unfair tariff laws imposed by that government. Reason being? Because obviously domestic sales would no doubt threaten Japans monopoly over their own market share in their own country. It's no secret either that the playing field is heavily in their advantage when it comes to domestic sales over here. Again, the superior product approach is a myth. There might have been some truth to it in the mid seventies, but not in this day and age.

What really bothers me (should bother anybody) is that Toyota is succeeding in dismantling the US auto industry and they're relying on the American consumer in order to do it. How embarrassing (for us as a nation) and you know they think of us as complete fools as a result.

If Toyota or Nissan was better then Ford or Dodge, then why on earth do almost all of our law enforcements across North America depend on a ford product ( Police Interceptor) to protect our streets, highways, schools, play grounds... Why are 80% of our ambulances stamped with a Ford logo... if these products were unreliable then why do the people that we put the safety of our lives into their hands depend on and put their lives into the hands of a Ford/Dodge?

As far as mileage goes, start inspecting the odometer readings on the bazillions of crown victoria cabs and squad cars that dot the landscape. Putting down huge mileage is critical to the guys that own and operate those cabs as a business

Notice when you get into these little debates, once you start throwing facts around, the pro Japan supporter starts to get desperate with "well, what brand of TV do you own?" Obviously, the TV is a crucial component in their lives and mainly responsible for their pro Japan quality leanings due to the ad spots targeted at them.

Fact of the matter is though (as far as this subject) Japan is trying its best to drive Detroit into the ground (especially regarding the current state of things)-- and relying on the aid of the American consumer in order to do it.

I find it disturbing, but not unexpected, that many people that have children don't have the modicum of intelligence to realize that without American industry and American made products their progeny will have a service job at McDonalds for a future. But a large number of American's are in fact stupid and will believe anything to the point of idiocy
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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People working at McDonalds can afford Maseratis, so I think they'll be ok.

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Old 02-23-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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You realize a lot of Toyotas are built in the US? VW, Honda, Hyundai, BMW...all build quite a few cars stateside.

My Ford Fiesta ST was built in Mexico. Engine and transmission built in Germany. 'Murica.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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Really, nothing that's not taken care of is going to last forever. But can I drive a toyota relatively care-free? I think so. Can i drive a BMW past 30k miles and not worry about it? When that warranty ends, better have some bank saved up...Ask me how I know.

Better yet, don't.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:10 PM
 
Location: WA
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The Camry has the highest content of US made parts of all cars (and is made in Kentucky and Indiana) second only to the F-150 truck.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:11 PM
 
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You realize a lot of Toyotas are built in the US? VW, Honda, Hyundai, BMW...all build quite a few cars stateside.

My Ford Fiesta ST was built in Mexico. Engine and transmission built in Germany. 'Murica.
Toyota has infiltrated into Washington playing up to elected officials for quite some time. Trust me, a Japanese corporation isn't going to open up assembly plants in this country for our benefit. That's strictly a PR move and it's been ground into the heads of American consumers as if in doing so, they should be perceived as an American company. Worst of all it's working.

Fact if the matter is that the American consumer is perhaps the dumbest on the planet. Japan has envied our auto industry and copied off of it for literally decades
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:12 PM
 
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Its not all a myth, and its not Just Toyota. Honda, and for many years, Nissan, made far more reliable products. They really made better cars for a long, long time. Its only been in the last 5-10 years that everyone else has caught up.

Police and law enforcement drive American Sedans because the Japanese don't make big enough cars. They don't use Japanese trucks for ambulances because the only trucks you can get big enough are American made platforms.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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If Toyota or Nissan was better then Ford or Dodge, then why on earth do almost all of our law enforcements across North America depend on a ford product ( Police Interceptor) to protect our streets, highways, schools, play grounds... Why are 80% of our ambulances stamped with a Ford logo... if these products were unreliable then why do the people that we put the safety of our lives into their hands depend on and put their lives into the hands of a Ford/Dodge?



A lot of department/agencies are mandated to purchase American vehicles.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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A lot of department/agencies are mandated to purchase American vehicles.
that's because they are smart enough to support American products and American economy, unlike, the average American consumer, who doesn't want anything American. So much for American patriotism, I find it so ironic, how many Americans hang their flags, and are so proud of their country, yet go and buy Asian made products, and hate on their own police, health system, government, etc.
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Old 02-23-2016, 02:22 PM
 
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that's because they are smart enough to support American products and American economy, unlike, the average American consumer, who doesn't want anything American.
Yeah, because that Ford Fusion built in Mexico is so 'Murica.


We live in a global economy. If Ford and GM built everything in America, then they might have more credibility.
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