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If VW even comes out with a fix, vs a buy back, I can easily see states not allowing owners to reregister their vehicle until the fix is done.
The pressure for clean is through the roof and states can't simply ignore it. Lawsuits will happen etc....
A lot of states don't even test diesels as they are exempt. Some that do just do a smog test which checks the opacity of the exhaust which any tdi will easily pass.
Many states you can see diesel trucks all day that have deleted all the emission equip on it, black smoke rolling out when they accelerate. Again they get away with this because the states don't care and neither do the people that see it. So while you might feel that the pressure for clean is through the roof.....I can assure you that bragging about your new prius will mostly only generate laughs here.
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VW will have to add a DEF fluid system like my 2015 Ram 2500 Diesel has they aren't going to do that those system are too expensive. I think this is why they went the cheating route because they could turn down the boost, and fuel settings while the car was getting smog tested less boost and fuel means less particulate matter and nitrogen oxides. I cringe at the cost it's going to be when I have to get my system cleaned when it plugs up.
They have a DEF system already. At least my Passat does.
They went the cheating route because if you turbo charge such a small engine your gonna hit higher temperatures that generate more nox than a bigger engine will under the same load.....for many reasons.
So they face a much more difficult problem than your RAM or a BMW for that matter. This is why the larger TDI engine VW makes has no issues with this and is excluded from the list of cars identified by the epa.
Could be right... heck... I still have to bring in my 40 year old car for a dyno smog test... the techs kind of scratch their heads because it has dual carburetors....
And despite that California still has 6 of the top 10 cities with the worst air pollution in the US.
Ohio had a smog check program years ago that they got rid of. Many states that do test these days are really just checking for a check engine light and not actually doing a pipe sniffer test. TDI would pass those just fine.
And despite that California still has 6 of the top 10 cities with the worst air pollution in the US.
Ohio had a smog check program years ago that they got rid of. Many states that do test these days are really just checking for a check engine light and not actually doing a pipe sniffer test. TDI would pass those just fine.
Well, California probably has the most large cities of compared to any state, just because it's a huge state.
It is not just vehicles... it applies to wood burning stoves and even low-temp windshield washer fluid restrictions
Exactly. It's hard to fault California for having strict emissions standards while at the same time also faulting them for having bad air quality. They're obviously trying to remedy the one with the help of the other.
In the three states with the most VW diesel cars caught up in the emissions scandal, only California withholds registration renewals from cars that fail to comply with recalls. In Texas and Florida, which have the second- and third-highest number of VW diesels after California, there are no emission standards in place for diesel vehicles.
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That means that without Volkswagen's prodding its customers or wooing them with financial incentives, regulators can do little but hope that owners will comply.
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