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Old 03-24-2016, 10:53 AM
 
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I would think that would be a shared fault situation.

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Solid traffic in the right two lanes, so no other way to get to the turn lane.
Except of course to chill yourself until traffic moved up to the start of the turn lane.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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When I had my CDL, I was taught to ignore people waving you on, and to never wave anyone by. The latter, I was told, would possibly get me held liable for any accidents that happen because I did it. I still practice those in a regular car.
It's amazing to me that a he-said / she-said scenario would keep someone liable for a traffic accident. Why can't they judge it based solely on right of way, who ran into who, and whether they should even be there? The Camry didn't have right of way regardless of anyone's word that the coast was clear.

I am often nice and let others in if we're waiting at a light anyway. I can't believe this is technically/legally my fault if someone then hits them... this is what people are saying?

What if I just leave space and they determine they can go without me actually waving them in? Honest questions.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I was found at fault 30 years ago for an accident in exactly this situation. I was in the middle lane of a five lane road, heading toward the left turn lane. Solid traffic in the right two lanes, so no other way to get to the turn lane. Two drivers were "nice" and left space for someone to dart out in front of me to take a left turn. I t-boned him.
When you see cars leaving space, shouldn't that automatically tell you that it's possible someone may come out? Don't you drive with your foot hovering the brake in that situation?

It's like when you're zooming through in the left lane while the right lane is jam-packed... you just know and have to prepare for someone to cut you off... you can't feel safe going that fast.

I don't agree you were at fault in your situation (right of way), but still... just to avoid it altogether - simple defensive driving IMO.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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Trying to make a left turn across multiple lanes at times of heavy traffic isn't the brightest thing to do to begin with. Almost always better to just make a right then turn around at a protected intersection.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:49 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Trying to make a left turn across multiple lanes at times of heavy traffic isn't the brightest thing to do to begin with. Almost always better to just make a right then turn around at a protected intersection.
I do just that. Instead of waiting forever to turn left, I always turn right, then u-turn. It's easy to miss seeing someone driving along across multiple lanes of heavy traffic and it saves time to just flip a u-turn anyway.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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I understand this. There are a lot of occasions when I want to be nice and let someone go but I don't because I know it will cause a dangerous situation. Do what your instincts tell you and make sure you see that it is clear. I try not to put
myself in these circumstances, opting to go out of my way to avoid them!
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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It's amazing to me that a he-said / she-said scenario would keep someone liable for a traffic accident. Why can't they judge it based solely on right of way, who ran into who, and whether they should even be there? The Camry didn't have right of way regardless of anyone's word that the coast was clear.

I am often nice and let others in if we're waiting at a light anyway. I can't believe this is technically/legally my fault if someone then hits them... this is what people are saying?

What if I just leave space and they determine they can go without me actually waving them in? Honest questions.
We're saying it is possible for you to be held liable for waving someone into a dangerous situation. Sometimes you will be liable, and sometimes not. If you just leave space (no waving)o then you would not be liable in that situation. When you wave, you're telling the other car that it is safe to go. You may not mean it that way, but that's how most would interpret it. I do not think it is right, but the reality is that you can be considered liable for waving people by.
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Old 03-25-2016, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I live on Long Island, there aren't any nice drivers here. When people wave at each other it's only with one finger.
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