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Just wondering if anyone shares my point of view. Thanks to gubmint fuel economy requirements in the upcoming years, car manufacturers are constantly coming out with features and changes designed to increase fuel economy. Frankly, I dislike most of these changes for various reasons; questionable long-term reliability, poor driving experience, fuel economy is not one of my car-buying considerations, etc. Such changes include:
-Turbo engines, especially 4-cyl turbos in relatively big cars.
-CVT transmissions
-Automatic start/stop when idling that cannot be permanently turned off.
-Phasing out V6 engines.
-Phasing out spare tires (minor complaint).
I feel like the time when almost all cars have these features or changes is rapidly approaching. They are running out of ways to meet the fuel economy standards without simply shrinking the engines again and lowering power. I am considering buying a new car in the near future that does not have these features/changes and holding onto it for a long time. Just wondering if anyone else feels the same way, and if so, what action you are taking.
Post SHTF, when government regulations are no more, we might see automobiles designed for a different set of conditions.
My guess:
__ Variable height suspensions to deal with the decrepit roads
__ Electric wheel hub motors (AWD) + an electrical powerplant (variable fuel)
__ Generic standardized chassis, customizable
__ Backbone tube chassis
Just wondering if anyone shares my point of view. Thanks to gubmint fuel economy requirements in the upcoming years, car manufacturers are constantly coming out with features and changes designed to increase fuel economy. Frankly, I dislike most of these changes for various reasons; questionable long-term reliability, poor driving experience, fuel economy is not one of my car-buying considerations, etc. Such changes include:
-Turbo engines, especially 4-cyl turbos in relatively big cars.
-CVT transmissions
-Automatic start/stop when idling that cannot be permanently turned off.
-Phasing out V6 engines.
-Phasing out spare tires (minor complaint).
I feel like the time when almost all cars have these features or changes is rapidly approaching. They are running out of ways to meet the fuel economy standards without simply shrinking the engines again and lowering power. I am considering buying a new car in the near future that does not have these features/changes and holding onto it for a long time. Just wondering if anyone else feels the same way, and if so, what action you are taking.
There are many many vehicles that don't have the changes you listed above. Are you having trouble finding one?
There are many many vehicles that don't have the changes you listed above. Are you having trouble finding one?
My price limit is $50k. Currently looking at these:
New 2016 Lexus IS350
2015 used Cadillac CTS (auto stop/start came in 2016)
2015 used Infiniti Q50 or Q70
2015 used Lexus GS350
New 2016 Buick Lacrosse (I need to verify the V6 doesn't have auto stop start - I hear the 2017 will have it.)
New 2016 Chrysler 300C (I like the look, but visibility from the driver's seat isn't great for a shorter guy like me)
New 2016 Hyundai Genesis
I don't like Honda or Toyota, and had too many bad VW experiences. Also thinking of looking at SUV's too - Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee, etc.
My price limit is $50k. Currently looking at these:
New 2016 Lexus IS350
2015 used Cadillac CTS (auto stop/start came in 2016)
2015 used Infiniti Q50 or Q70
2015 used Lexus GS350
New 2016 Buick Lacrosse (I need to verify the V6 doesn't have auto stop start - I hear the 2017 will have it.)
New 2016 Chrysler 300C (I like the look, but visibility from the driver's seat isn't great for a shorter guy like me)
New 2016 Hyundai Genesis
I don't like Honda or Toyota, and had too many bad VW experiences. Also thinking of looking at SUV's too - Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee, etc.
Car Reliability Comparisons I would recommend take a look at "true delta" for reliability results prior to taking the plunge.
Because of the government we have had a constant improvement in safety features on cars. Remember the cars from the 70's? They would rust out before they were paid off. Every car I get seems to be much more improved over the last. I believe in decent MPG. The car manufacturers are capable of giving you a reliable and economic vehicle. Who needs the gas guzzlers of the past?
I'm all for progress. I don't want to go back to the 80's or 90's. Keep moving forward....
My price limit is $50k. Currently looking at these:
New 2016 Lexus IS350
2015 used Cadillac CTS (auto stop/start came in 2016)
2015 used Infiniti Q50 or Q70
2015 used Lexus GS350
New 2016 Buick Lacrosse (I need to verify the V6 doesn't have auto stop start - I hear the 2017 will have it.)
New 2016 Chrysler 300C (I like the look, but visibility from the driver's seat isn't great for a shorter guy like me)
New 2016 Hyundai Genesis
I don't like Honda or Toyota, and had too many bad VW experiences. Also thinking of looking at SUV's too - Ford Explorer, Jeep Grand Cherokee, etc.
This is a terrible list, pardon me my biased opinion. Also as you do not like Toyota, you need to scratch the actually ones and only GOOD cars on your list - Lexus.
That being said, if you want to have a GOOD car, RELIABLE as you intend to keep it for years, you, unfortunately, are cornered into exactly what you do not like - Toyota. Specifically Lexus. Which I actually find my 12 HiHy to be better car than wife's 11 RX350.
So you either buy reliable car to keep for years = Lexus, or you buy trouble to fix for years.
Remark for nt caring about gas prices is good up to what price actually? 3 bucks? 4? How about 5? As I have seen many that said that only to come back and start ranting about bad gas mileage and gas prices going up. Beware what you asking for.
OP, I'm with you. Everything was fine when we had steel dashboards, non-telescoping steering columns, no seat belts (even as optional equipment), and leaded gas.
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