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Old 07-06-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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I;m thinking if people are becoming so lazy and complacent that they now want cars that steer themselves maybe its time to take a bus, How hard is it to actually steer the darn car.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Renton - Fairwood, Washington
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It's amazing that people are becoming test dummys for Tesla. They put out the autopilot feature and people are helping tesla test the system out with their lives.

Even for someone like me who is more savvy with technology than majority of the people I wouldn't trust Autopilot yet. There are too many situations unaccounted for that a software and sensors would not anticipate or make the best judgement.


For instance, yesterday I was changing lanes on a 2 lane road and a big truck was in front obstructing my view of the front. As I changed lanes, I carefully peeked over to see if the road was clear. Luckily I was going slowly, the minute I changed into the lane there was a slow car hidden on that lane that I couldn't see because the truck was in the way.

A computer program would need to account for that and process in real time what to do at that moment. If it could not see the other car it could cause an accident.
Not this puppy... until every car on the road has a feature like this and can communicate with each other to avoid accidents I'll be staying far away.


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I;m thinking if people are becoming so lazy and complacent that they now want cars that steer themselves maybe its time to take a bus, How hard is it to actually steer the darn car.
But... but... I want to be the cool kid on the block with a Tesla that drives me around while I surf Facebook!

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Old 07-06-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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If I am already at the wheel of a car how much more effort does it take to just drive the damn thing?
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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If I am already at the wheel of a car how much more effort does it take to just drive the damn thing?
Is that the point? Just saying, America for all its military sophistication is a total backwater when it comes to the penetration of useful civil technologies like high def TV, broadband Internet and cell phone infrastructure and voice quality. The rest of the world including the Third World marches right past America and Americans for the most part don't care. If Tesla is shut down and if Google and Uber are barred from any further R&D of autonomous cars I doubt there would be much regret given what I can see on City-Data. 20 years from now when the technology is being rolled out to consumers in Europe or Asia, some investors state-side might start to get nervous about financial opportunities getting away but only the lost investment opportunities. Tesla's mistake was giving this system to Americans to beta test.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Is that the point? Just saying, America for all its military sophistication is a total backwater when it comes to the penetration of useful civil technologies like high def TV, broadband Internet and cell phone infrastructure and voice quality. The rest of the world including the Third World marches right past America and Americans for the most part don't care. If Tesla is shut down and if Google and Uber are barred from any further R&D of autonomous cars I doubt there would be much regret given what I can see on City-Data. 20 years from now when the technology is being rolled out to consumers in Europe or Asia, some investors state-side might start to get nervous about financial opportunities getting away but only the lost investment opportunities. Tesla's mistake was giving this system to Americans to beta test.
Europe and Asia can have it. I won't cry if we don't.
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: NYC
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If I am already at the wheel of a car how much more effort does it take to just drive the damn thing?
I am always driving defensively. Expect anything can happen on the road. Never ever take your mind off when driving, it is the most cerebral thing to be cautious of your surroundings no matter where you go.

I have had close calls with people who ran stops signs and red lights. They say sorry. But had I not paid attention there won't be a chance to say sorry.

You can't trust computer drivers until we take all humans away from driving. We are the problem.
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:46 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Tesla: The New Ford Pinto. That’s now two serious wrecks in 130 million miles. Their safety record is plummeting. I’m sensing a recall coming.
Hey, maybe 60 Minutes can do a hatchet job on Tesla like they did on Audi years ago.
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:48 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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If I am already at the wheel of a car how much more effort does it take to just drive the damn thing?
Well, many say that whole driving effort thingy interferes far too much with their, phoning, texting, eating, drinking, applying make-up, shaving, reading a book, watching a movie, making out, etc., etc., etc.
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's an assist program.

I use mine on my Mercedes.
At slow speeds only (basically to relieve the burden of bumper-to-bumper stop-and-go traffic).
And while paying attention at all times.

I mean, there's too much responsibility for lives and property to just decide the car can do everything.
Even though mine has worked flawlessly. I'm not about to read a book or whatever other nonsense.
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Old 07-06-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If I am already at the wheel of a car how much more effort does it take to just drive the damn thing?
I agree.
Where I have found it handy is the hour and half long "go 50 feet and stop for a minute, go 50 feet and stop for 30 seconds, go 50 feet, slow down, speed up, go another 30 feet, stop, blah blah."

You know. That total stop-and-go-no-one's-moving-more-than-5-15 mph deals.

That's exhausting.
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