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Old 08-12-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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Over 500mpg? Clearly a typo no?

No. It was single cylinder chain driven small car. I'll try to dig it out. Memory is not the best but I believe it was around 500. Guy bought two of them. People have weird stuff here at Pac NW.
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Old 08-12-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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Some folks at Shell Oil Co. wrote “Fuel Economy of the Gasoline Engine” (ISBN 0-470-99132-1); it was published by John Wiley & Sons, New York, in 1977. On page 42 Shell Oil quotes the President of General Motors, he, in 1929, predicted 80 MPG by 1939. Between pages 221 and 223 Shell writes of their achievements: 49.73 MPG around 1939; 149.95 MPG with a 1947 Studebaker in 1949; 244.35 MPG with a 1959 Fiat 600 in 1968; 376.59 MPG with a 1959 Opel in 1973. The Library of Congress (LOC), in September 1990, did not have a copy of this book. It was missing from the files. I bought my copy from Maryland Book Exchange around 1980 after a professor informed me that it was used as an engineering text at the University of West Virginia. VPI published a paper, March 1979, concerning maximum achievable fuel economy. This paper has several charts illustrating achievable and impossible fuel economy.
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Old 08-12-2016, 01:52 PM
 
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Take your pick here:

Directory:Fuel Efficiency Vehicles - PESwiki.com
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Old 08-12-2016, 02:10 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Not will the amenities that Americans want like leather seats, sound proofing, 8 cup holders, 5 star crash test and climate control.

My Prius gets 50ish MPG already and I actually think it drives better than a gas only 4 cylinder car. It gets to 0-15mph as quick as any Tesla P85d and very quiet. I don't need a rocket ship and I already posted that most people that drive Chargers and Mustangs are slow pokes on the highway, not much bang for the buck for V8s that aren't getting full exercise.
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Old 08-12-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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No, my bad. it's 376 mpg.

Hybrids, meet your rival -- it gets 376.59 mpg - seattlepi.com
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Old 08-12-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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Yeah they got good mileage, but who'd want to be seen driving a Geo Metro?

It'd be like driving a Smart car. My friends and family would leave me. Oh wait, I don't have sny friends...

Me - bright red 4x4 Ford pickup super crew, get outta my way!
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Old 08-12-2016, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Some folks at Shell Oil Co. wrote “Fuel Economy of the Gasoline Engine” (ISBN 0-470-99132-1); it was published by John Wiley & Sons, New York, in 1977. On page 42 Shell Oil quotes the President of General Motors, he, in 1929, predicted 80 MPG by 1939. Between pages 221 and 223 Shell writes of their achievements: 49.73 MPG around 1939; 149.95 MPG with a 1947 Studebaker in 1949; 244.35 MPG with a 1959 Fiat 600 in 1968; 376.59 MPG with a 1959 Opel in 1973. The Library of Congress (LOC), in September 1990, did not have a copy of this book. It was missing from the files. I bought my copy from Maryland Book Exchange around 1980 after a professor informed me that it was used as an engineering text at the University of West Virginia. VPI published a paper, March 1979, concerning maximum achievable fuel economy. This paper has several charts illustrating achievable and impossible fuel economy.
Amazon has it.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:51 PM
 
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30 years of progress and technology, combined with immense political will towards addressing energy efficiency and climate change, has resulted in a reduction in fuel efficiency by 10 mpg over the past 30 years?
I don't think it has anything to do with technology. It's due to a couple of issues IMO: Americans are gluttonous fattasses that demand more power and size in their vehicles which greatly reduces fuel efficiency; lobbyists and other political game players nudge our regulations in a direction that suits their already deep pockets with a complete disregard for the environment and the pockets of American citizens.
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:21 AM
 
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There's a vehicle that was made by a college (I thought it was Berkeley) a while back for a competition that was put on by one of the big oil/gas companies. I don't believe it had all the safety equipment, but the vehicle got 1250 mpg. YES 1250 mpg. It only held one person, and it took 45 minutes to get it up to 55mph. They won the contest and won $10,000 for it. Now the big oil and gas company, (I want to say Chevron) owns the right to the technology for $10K, and you will never see that make its way to any major manufacturer. I tried doing a quick search but couldn't find anything about it.
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Old 08-13-2016, 03:00 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The three wheel Elio gats 84 mpg.
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