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^Son, it's not a question what is written down in laws. You brought up having the proper "mindset", not me. A proper mindset is that you do what is required by law AND what is safe, proper and responsible. This doesn't mean acting like a juvenile with a vehicle as much as you feel it is your right to do so.
There is no disagreement between us as a disagreement assumes there is a rational discussion. Your "help" comment if you are being serious precludes that, and if you are just being silly, then same thing.
True, they will slow down, but only until they're past the police car. Then it's right back to speeding. If they were to get a few $115 speeding tickets, maybe they'd actually change their habits all the time.
Oh, and I don't mind people going a little over the speed limit. 45 in a 40 isn't a terribly big deal, and cops don't usually give tickets for that anyway. What I'm talking about is those going 65+ in a 40 in the middle of town, or 45+ down my street (which is a 30mph zone). These people desperately need tickets.
City and residential areas - I (for the most part) agree,,, disagree where its a main thoroughfare that is running through a city, such as a main two-lane road... and the posted limit is merely for revenue. Regarding residential areas, where kids and such are playing and walking and that, yes indeed, speeds must be enforced. Now, however, as to interstates and highways, as stated before - too often the limits are set for revenue and other non-engineering related concerns.
IMHO, the main three causes for accidents are (a) operator ignorance/error/misjudgment, (b) hazardous road conditions [be it construction and/or weather], and (c) vehicle issues. I would love that there be a REQUIRED course, written and driven, that must be passed before they are allowed to drive. And this course repeat every 15 years or so. That would decrease accidents that are due to operator issues, and weed out fools and goofs that have no business trying to control/drive a large hunk of metal & plastic.
Seriously - over 42000,,, yes, forty-two-thousand ,,,, people are killed EVERY YEAR via car-related accidents - of which there is over 6 million per year of those . Speed is a part of this equation, no doubt,,, but IMHO so even more so is knowledge/education [including drunks & C&I], road & traffic designs, road construction, and the vehicle itself.
With that all said, I do and will continue to flash my headlights towards other motorists to warn of hazards and police, and much appreciate others that do the same.
City and residential areas - I (for the most part) agree,,, disagree where its a main thoroughfare that is running through a city, such as a main two-lane road... and the posted limit is merely for revenue. Regarding residential areas, where kids and such are playing and walking and that, yes indeed, speeds must be enforced. Now, however, as to interstates and highways, as stated before - too often the limits are set for revenue and other non-engineering related concerns.
IMHO, the main three causes for accidents are (a) operator ignorance/error/misjudgment, (b) hazardous road conditions [be it construction and/or weather], and (c) vehicle issues. I would love that there be a REQUIRED course, written and driven, that must be passed before they are allowed to drive. And this course repeat every 15 years or so. That would decrease accidents that are due to operator issues, and weed out fools and goofs that have no business trying to control/drive a large hunk of metal & plastic.
Seriously - over 42000,,, yes, forty-two-thousand ,,,, people are killed EVERY YEAR via car-related accidents - of which there is over 6 million per year of those . Speed is a part of this equation, no doubt,,, but IMHO so even more so is knowledge/education [including drunks & C&I], road & traffic designs, road construction, and the vehicle itself.
With that all said, I do and will continue to flash my headlights towards other motorists to warn of hazards and police, and much appreciate others that do the same.
I saw a report where speed was the most consistent negative factor is MOST highway deaths.Even stupid drivers have a better chance to survive if they slow down.As a side note people on cells phones are just as likely to cause an accident as someone who is drunk. Let a person on a cell phone be speeding and its only a matter of time before they cause a serious accident.just a matter of time.
On the evening that Trooper mod cut: stopped me, I was recording the full event. This is whey I have irresistible evidence that Trooper mod cut: is mistaken regarding the details of the stop.
An audio recording without consent is illegal.
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People that refuse to warn others of possible dangerous situations or allowing people to enter situations where they can be negatively impacted is a shameful behavior.
Oh well. why didnt you tell us. all you need to do is go before the judge and tell him you know more about the law than the cop and thats the way it is. You got rights and demand he treat you legal..............He will.........lol
People that refuse to warn others of possible dangerous situations or allowing people to enter situations where they can be negatively impacted is a shameful behavior.
Are you saying you consider a driver getting a ticket more dangerous than the same driver speeding? Also, let me mention how many times I've prevented someone else from getting a ticket because they were "stuck" behind me going the speed limit. I doubt a single one of them secretly thanked me for saving them $115+.
I think you're overestimating just how dangerous driving fast really is. Rather than chase down tailgaters, aggressive drivers, improper equipment, look for DUI driving behavior, or unregistered cars, police sit on the side of the road and wait for a radar gun to go beep, then write a ticket, and go back to their mindless task. Its easy revenue, but it hardly makes the roads safer. If speed traps were less effective, maybe police would spend more effort on public safety.
Almost every time there's a report of a car crash on the news, the two most common factors mentioned are speed and/or alcohol. Regardless, the fact is you're breaking the law when you speed. If you get caught it doesn't matter if you think the speed limit is too low on that particular street, or that the officers could be using their time for something else. Unless you're rushing to the hospital, not speeding is incredibly easy to prevent, and there's really no good reason to complain if you get a ticket. It's no one's fault but your own. And I have no intention of warning speeders that they may be about to get a ticket. If they're speeding they should know it's a possiblity. Maybe if they get enough tickets they'll eventually learn to drive the speed limit. It worked on me when I was younger.
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,,,, people are killed EVERY YEAR via car-related accidents - of which there is over 6 million per year of those 
. Speed is a part of this equation, no doubt,,, but IMHO so even more so is knowledge/education [including drunks & C&I], road & traffic designs, road construction, and the vehicle itself.
