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Old 04-04-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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I remember the last generation of Cressida was considered the last car you'll ever buy. That would be the late 80's, early 90's. Now you never see one. Rarely do you see any old Toyota, Nissan, Honda, etc. So much for foreign cars being better made.

Let's go back to say... 1992.

You could expect a Camry or Maxima to run 200k miles without any major repairs, and the body and interior often held up great as well. The Japanese used excellent quality cloth on their upholstery back then.

Now from that same year, look at domestics like the Lumina or Taurus... those cars would often need a transmission overhaul around 100k miles, and by then the paint would often look terrible with peeling clearcoat, and the interior would look worn with buckled and warped plastics.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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I see old Japanese cars everywhere here. Heck a lot more than Domestics or European ones.

Don't remember the last time I've seen a 90's Taurus, Malibu, etc.

Must be a regional thing.
In the Midwest, all of the Japanese cars rusted to bits.
There are no old Hondas or Toyotas here, only the occasional old sports car.
I know a guy who has an '87 Z and I've seen a couple of Datsun 1600s.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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In the Midwest, all of the Japanese cars rusted to bits.
There are no old Hondas or Toyotas here, only the occasional old sports car.
I know a guy who has an '87 Z and I've seen a couple of Datsun 1600s.
Have to compare it to other cars of same generation. How many old domestic cars do you see? Are you rural or urban. Truth be told small town america you'll see a higher percentage of domestics. In bigger towns it does sway a bit more the other way.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Have to compare it to other cars of same generation. How many old domestic cars do you see? Are you rural or urban. Truth be told small town america you'll see a higher percentage of domestics. In bigger towns it does sway a bit more the other way.
I see old domestic cars all the time. Not a small town... metro area is almost 400K.

Heck, I see three different 1st generation Cavaliers regularly, still somehow chugging along.
The paint is shot, but there's not that much rust on 'em. Rust is what determines what's still here and what's not.
They go nuts with the salt in these parts and Japanese cars of the 70's and 80's couldn't handle it.

They ran fine but fell apart around the powertrain. That's what happened to my '81 Datsun 810.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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those old Honda CRX...stock... can surpass 50 MPG...absolutely amazing and fun cars.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Have to compare it to other cars of same generation. How many old domestic cars do you see? Are you rural or urban. Truth be told small town america you'll see a higher percentage of domestics. In bigger towns it does sway a bit more the other way.
There are a lot of mid-90s Ford Taurus'/Mercury Sables, both sedans and wagons (oldest son has two '95 wagons on the road right now), still operating in this part of Maryland as well as the '96 era redesign.


I just got rid of a '91 Lumina (rusted and wrecked) and an '03 Taurus within the last 18 months or so.
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Much better looks back then than now, IMO. Especially so with their trucks and SUVs.

As others have mentioned these older, Asian manufactured vehicles were unfortunately very prone to rust, which doesn't look so good.

Gains in aerodynamics and engine fuel efficiency have been squandered and mostly canceled out by consumer demand for more HP, speed and size.

Larger model size is to some degree a result of greater safety features, but also due to rising obesity rates.
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:20 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Much better looks back then than now, IMO. Especially so with their trucks and SUVs.

As others have mentioned these older, Asian manufactured vehicles were unfortunately very prone to rust, which doesn't look so good.

Gains in aerodynamics and engine fuel efficiency have been squandered and mostly canceled out by consumer demand for more HP, speed and size.

Larger model size is to some degree a result of greater safety features, but also due to rising obesity rates.

Some of you guys say that in nearly every thread. I'd like to see the proof, if you will, of that.
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Sumter, SC
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The first new car I ever bought was a 92 Altima. I got the 5 speed instead of the automatic. Loved that car. Put nearly 200k on it in about 6 years. It still looked good and ran great when I sold it to a friend who bought it for his teenage daughter. It was ruined in 6 months.
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle, NC
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Gains in aerodynamics and engine fuel efficiency have been squandered and mostly canceled out by consumer demand for more HP, speed and size.
1995 Honda Accord V6 sedan: 170 hp, 17/23/19 mpg (EPA, revised); 19/25/21 mpg (EPA, original)
2017 Honda Accord V6 sedan: 278 hp, 21/32/24 mpg (EPA)

Sure looks like improvement on both fronts to me...
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