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Old 05-02-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Actually, the national database was only consolidated after 9/11 (2003 or 2004 I think) and still has some loopholes. The reporting process varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and often it can take a long time for data to make it into the system. Checks may occur, but they are not always effective at screening out the scammers.
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H.R. 6170 (97th): National Driver Register Act of 1982

An act to amend title 23, United States Code, to encourage the establishment by States of effective alcohol traffic safety programs and to require the Secretary of Transportation to administer a national driver register to assist State driver licensing officials in electronically exchanging information regarding the motor vehicle driving records of certain individuals.
National Driver Register Act of 1982
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Old 05-02-2017, 08:41 PM
 
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I have relatives with alcohol and drug addictions. Some have had their driver's license pulled for this and for driving under a suspended license. Some of these relatives have made two claims I hope are not true. The first is they can still keep or get a motorcycle license and ride their motorcycle as needed. The other claim is they can cross the state border to live with a friend long enough to get a license in that state before moving back to their home state.

Are their claims true and if so, should there be some form of regulation or law nationwide to prevent this?
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None of the claims are true. Every state checks to see if your license is suspended in another state, or even in a foreign country, before they issue you one. You can't get a driver's license anywhere, before you resolve issues with your previous license. That's the way it's been for the last 30 plus years.
yep, cloudy dayz is right. there was a time when you could get several drivers licenses, truckers used to do that with their CDLs to hide traffic infractions, but this can no longer be done.
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Old 05-02-2017, 11:22 PM
 
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I have relatives with alcohol and drug addictions. Some have had their driver's license pulled for this and for driving under a suspended license. Some of these relatives have made two claims I hope are not true. The first is they can still keep or get a motorcycle license and ride their motorcycle as needed. The other claim is they can cross the state border to live with a friend long enough to get a license in that state before moving back to their home state.

Are their claims true and if so, should there be some form of regulation or law nationwide to prevent this?
Your relative might be getting a motorcycle license confused with the lack of needing one to ride a 50cc or less scooter.

Not sure on your second thing.
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Old 05-02-2017, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Another question. Sister-in-law lost her license due to DUI. HoWever, enough time has elapsed that she can get her license if she gets the breathing tube installed on a car. Her car is totaled and she can't afford another car. Could she get a motorcycle of some type and if so, would she still be required to have the tube to start the motorcycle?
Do these people have their unfortunate habits/addictions under control now?

If not, they can go get a fake license in LA and within a month or two they'll be on an episode of COPS crashed into, hopefully, some non-valuable inanimate object.

Putting a drunk or druggie on a bike is akin to P.J. O'Roark's comment about giving teenage boys alcohol and car keys. Very bad idea with very obvious outcomes.
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:13 AM
 
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Do these people have their unfortunate habits/addictions under control now?

If not, they can go get a fake license in LA and within a month or two they'll be on an episode of COPS crashed into, hopefully, some non-valuable inanimate object.

Putting a drunk or druggie on a bike is akin to P.J. O'Roark's comment about giving teenage boys alcohol and car keys. Very bad idea with very obvious outcomes.
No. They still think they have their drinking and pot smoking under control. A few can't get a job because of their drinking. Not a good sign when you show up for a house painting job with a tall can of beer or an early empty 40oz first thing in the morning. At one time smoking pot was something they only did at parties or to unwind from a day at work. Now just about anything is an excuse to light up. They're more creative at try's not to hide their drinking than working at a paying job.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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In MN, the plates stay with used cars. You are also required to have a special license plate (different color scheme, starts with a W) if you get a second or third DUI.

It wasn't unheard of for someone to walk the lot and check for a used car with a good 10 months left on the registration, reason being that they wouldn't have to put their Whiskey plates on the car for awhile, often long enough to outlast their required scarlet letter plates.

I also heard of people buying dually trucks, because they required a different tax/tag setup than could be accommodated with the WPlate system.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: The Commonwealth of Virginia
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A 49cc scooter would be the best bet!
^^^^^^ This. In the sate of Virginia, you don't need a DL to ride a scooter on the street. But I don't think you can go past 35 mph on a scooter.

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Old 05-03-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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Actually, the national database was only consolidated after 9/11 (2003 or 2004 I think) and still has some loopholes. The reporting process varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and often it can take a long time for data to make it into the system. Checks may occur, but they are not always effective at screening out the scammers.
This, pretty much. There is a big time lag between a DUI conviction and when it makes it into the database. If you play the "I lost my license" game and get a duplicate license before the court date, you can declare residence in another state and obtain a valid driver's license turning in the original license. The DUI license suspension is only for that one state.

What you can't dodge is the insurance company. They're going to find you in the centralized DUI conviction database and refuse to insure you. You can always buy a beater, give a friend the cash to register and insure it, and "borrow" it. If that friend is low income and doesn't have any wealth, they're not going to get sued if you get drunk and kill somebody or cause tons of property damage.

The drunks around here just drive with a suspended license.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:09 PM
 
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What makes it hard on drunks is the poor excuse for city bus system here in Lafayette Louisiana. After a certain hour it converts to limited service. Too many places the bus won't even pass. If you live and work within the city limits, no problem with bus service. Outside the city limits and you have to go miles to reach the nearest open air bus stop. Not long ago there was a guy who rode his horse to the nearest rural bar. When he passed out drunk, the guys at the bar threw him over the back of the horse and told the horse to go home. He'd wake up still on his horse but now in his yard. Bus service is so bad at night that some me of my hospital coworkers have to ride bicycles to work on the evening shift. Even with lights on the bikes, this is dangerous because of narrow roads.
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