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Old 06-14-2017, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Call me a 'luddite' (I prefer 'old school') ...
OK, you're an Old School Luddite.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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Cars parking themselves in silly, IMO. If you can't parallel park, you shouldn't be driving.

But I think most of the new safety features are great. Even the best driver gets distracted from time to time. These features offer a safety net.
I have never once needed to parallel park since obtaining my license 22 years ago. My state no longer even includes it on the test.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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How many cars from the 70's, 80's, and 90's do you see at car shows?
I see one 1989 XR4Ti at every car show I go to. And I go to a lot of car shows.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:55 AM
 
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I agree with the OP. That's why the newest vehicle I own is a 2006, and I'm not really happy with it. For instance, the right front turn signal quit working. After a full day of trouble shooting, the tech found that it was the primary computer that had developed a glitch. The computer could not be repaired or re-programmed, it had to be replaced. Time and parts; a little over $800!
If I could afford it, my daily driver would be something like a 1954 Hudson Hornet, with "Twin-H" power, three speed with overdrive, and retrofitted with 4 point safety harnesses and a 12 volt system.
Or perhaps a 1955 Kaiser Manhattan with the supercharger, similarly outfitted.
You are not the only one here. I would like to get a simple car as well. I do not need 3 video cameras, touch screen, etc.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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as it would for example if it limited throttle opening-angle according to some "safety" mode. That's when I'd start to take umbrage.
Well, of course, this is the application of 'drive by wire' that I was suggesting... what if your umbrage did not factor into it?
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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You are not the only one here. I would like to get a simple car as well. I do not need 3 video cameras, touch screen, etc.
It's all of those people who line up for the latest iPhone. Even though their current iPhone works properly.
Never mind the iWatch. If they got the excess funds, fine. Many don't have funds for retirement and kids college education/trade school.

My vehicles here are both 2002 - car and pickup truck - both used - both less then 50,000 miles on odometer. And both have an FOB AND power windows !
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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I also refuse to connect my phone, I simply just don't use it when I'm in the car anymore.

I use BT to connect my phone to the radio so that I play either my music playlist, Pandora, or iHeart Radio. All free apps and I listen to what I want. It also allows me to press a button on the steering wheel and say "Siri, play _____" which is very convenient.




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I will say that in my opinion Bluetooth is no safer as the act of holding a phone is not what is unsafe it is the conversation. Bluetooth is technologies way of saying FU to the police because now they cant tell if you are actually talking on the phone, to yourself, a passenger, or just singing a song.

If the conversation is what's dangerous, then so is talking to a passenger, a backseat child or singing along with a song. I've ridden with people that turn their heads to converse with passengers, front or back seat, and people that are barely paying attention to the road while singing. Won't ride with them anymore.


For me, using hands free BT is no different than talking to the person sitting next to me. And using BT for the music is less distracting, especially on longer trips, than fiddling with the radio dial or looking around for the next cassette or CD.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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I have never once needed to parallel park since obtaining my license 22 years ago. My state no longer even includes it on the test.
We live in a small town and have no need to parallel park. But we visited our daughter in the Hollywood Hills where she lives on a steep street with an unusually high curb. Right in front of her house was a choice parking spot, maybe a few feet longer than my wife's Lincoln MKZ. There was no way I would even try. But her car has that automatic parking button and bam! In we went in about 5 seconds! I was very impressed.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: moved
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Well, of course, this is the application of 'drive by wire' that I was suggesting... what if your umbrage did not factor into it?
I can not presume to speak for others, or to dictate their preferences. But as for my own preferences, as a consumer and a private citizen, I view the automobile as foremost being an instrument of personal pleasure and satisfaction.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: NH
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I use BT to connect my phone to the radio so that I play either my music playlist, Pandora, or iHeart Radio. All free apps and I listen to what I want. It also allows me to press a button on the steering wheel and say "Siri, play _____" which is very convenient.







If the conversation is what's dangerous, then so is talking to a passenger, a backseat child or singing along with a song. I've ridden with people that turn their heads to converse with passengers, front or back seat, and people that are barely paying attention to the road while singing. Won't ride with them anymore.


For me, using hands free BT is no different than talking to the person sitting next to me. And using BT for the music is less distracting, especially on longer trips, than fiddling with the radio dial or looking around for the next cassette or CD.
I agree, if you use your phone for music I guess that would come in pretty handy. I don't keep any music on my phone though so I never really thought about that. Good point!


As for the hands free, I view it as technology that allows me to multitask as now I can talk through Bluetooth as well as drink my coffee etc. because now I have a free hand to do so which is why I don't get why Bluetooth is so much safer. I mean why is talking through Bluetooth with a coffee cup in your hand any safer than holding the phone in one hand and talking?
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