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Old 06-27-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: West Des Moines
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In the USA diesel is more expensive than premium gasoline.
According to AAA, regular gasoline averages $2.254 today, mid-grade averages $2.558, premium averages $2.805.

Diesel averages $2.449. So it is cheaper than midgrade and about 35 cents/gallon cheaper than premium.

Diesel will rise in relation to gasoline as we get closer to the harvest season and the back-to-school season, because all those tractors, combines, trucks, locomotives and tugboats will be using more fuel. And when school starts, many if not most of those school buses are diesel powered.

But diesel will still be cheaper than premium.
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Old 06-28-2017, 03:28 AM
 
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Diesel will rise in relation to gasoline as we get closer to the harvest season and the back-to-school season, because all those tractors, combines, trucks, locomotives and tugboats will be using more fuel. And when school starts, many if not most of those school buses are diesel powered.
In the Northeast oil is still used in a lot of homes for heat, it's diesel.
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Old 06-28-2017, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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In the Northeast oil is still used in a lot of homes for heat, it's diesel.
Yes it's #2 diesel not diesel flue to fuel diesel vehicles. #2 diesel is a red color as is heating oil we're as regular diesel is clear with a greenish ting to it.
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Old 06-29-2017, 12:43 AM
 
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Yes it's #2 diesel not diesel flue to fuel diesel vehicles. #2 diesel is a red color as is heating oil we're as regular diesel is clear with a greenish ting to it.
It's just dyed so they can tell if you paid road fuel taxes on it. LE can simply dip the tank to insure you are using taxed fuel. I don't know if it's common everywhere but you can buy untaxed fuel at some fueling stations in my area. It's for off road use in machinery etc.

While on the topic if you use a lot of taxed fuel for offroad use, boats, lawnmowers etc. The IRS has a rebate form for this. It will vary by state for the state fuel taxes.
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Old 06-29-2017, 01:18 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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In the Northeast oil is still used in a lot of homes for heat, it's diesel.
and of course... you can easily brew your own Home heating oil (or burn Waste Veggie oil, or waste heating oil)

I friend in Sierras runs his WVO genset 4 hrs / night turning his electric meter backwards, (selling power back to utility) while the genset engine coolant warms his floor. (which has the thermal mass to carry heat-load for 24 hrs). He gets a $100+ check from the electric company every month. It is worth the hassle for a retired guy... Another friend in VT has a 4-71 Detroit Diesel genset running on WVO... That makes the neighbors real happy...
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Old 06-29-2017, 05:06 AM
 
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And for anyone wondering about the Real validity of OBTAINING WVO, it's slim. The vast majority of business I contacted in 3 different states all claimed they had contracts they couldn't break for their WVO (or any real volume of it). The few who didn't, were already providing it to someone else. The short of it is that over about 3 years of looking/asking, I found exactly ZERO sources for WVO in quantities greater than the random gallon here or there.

There are other issues too, but if you can't get the stuff it doesn't really matter what those are. But the vocal handful sure talk it up a lot....
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Old 06-29-2017, 01:24 PM
 
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In the USA diesel is more expensive than premium gasoline.
Incorrect. Its much cheaper than premium.

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VW/Audi were making sales with their turbo diesel cars until it was discovered they had software to cheat the emissions test. Once discovered, they failed USA emissions test and were deemed illegal to drive in some states.
I can't recall a single state where they are illegal to drive. Not even California.

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Other companies making diesel cars required a special tank and filtration just to pass the strict emissions test.
And VW has them also. Anyone with a street diesel since about 2009 has it.

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All of this added technology to pass emissions test as well as the cost of diesel makes it a more expensive vehicle to purchase and own than its gasoline version.
While the emissions requirements do add to the cost, the real difference in price is the basic design requirements of the engine to run at a much higher compression than gas. Hence the better mpg diesel typically enjoys.
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Old 06-29-2017, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Incorrect. Its much cheaper than premium.



I can't recall a single state where they are illegal to drive. Not even California.



And VW has them also. Anyone with a street diesel since about 2009 has it.



While the emissions requirements do add to the cost, the real difference in price is the basic design requirements of the engine to run at a much higher compression than gas. Hence the better mpg diesel typically enjoys.
And do you think that everyone who had one of those VW diesel took them back for the fix. Hell no they loved the mileage they were getting.
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Old 06-29-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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And do you think that everyone who had one of those VW diesel took them back for the fix. Hell no they loved the mileage they were getting.
Most took the buyout.
It pretty much amounted to them getting free use of the car while they had it.
I'm going to take a trip from Illinois to northern Minnesota in my Cruze and expect to fill the car up at home and one time during the trip.
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Most took the buyout.
It pretty much amounted to them getting free use of the car while they had it.
I'm going to take a trip from Illinois to northern Minnesota in my Cruze and expect to fill the car up at home and one time during the trip.
My nephew works for VW the company not a dealer, he told me that many people were happy with their current car and were not taking the fix.
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