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That article was from 2012. What I see the past couple of years of more gears being added to conventional automatics, 8 and 9 speeds is common now (I don't particularly care for those other). Hyundai is choosing to go the DCT route.
Camry is still the best selling mid sized sedan but the market is moving away from those vehicles. All vehicles in that segment have declining sales.
It comes back to what I've wondered for a long time...whats the point of a sedan anymore?
If you dont need something big like an SUV, CUVs have more versatility, clearance, and room (and you can still get good mpg and handling and old folk can get in and out easily).
If you want something small, efficient, and easy to park, you can get a number of hatchbacks and hybrids/electrics. If you want sporty, there are plenty of dedicated sport coupes and convertibles.
That article was from 2012. What I see the past couple of years of more gears being added to conventional automatics, 8 and 9 speeds is common now (I don't particularly care for those other). Hyundai is choosing to go the DCT route.
The "people" are the internet drivers. Talk to someone who actually owns one. We have an Altima in the family and it has all the get up and go you want. I was the one who stepped on the throttle, by the way.
No one is telling you to hate your Altima or trade it in. There are pros and cons to every single car on the market. This just happens to be a con that many take into consideration when buying a Nissan. And on the flipside, many car buyers have no idea about CVTs.
And to answer your question, "Why are there so many Nissans on the road then?" Simple, the common buyer is not versed in research and education, which you clearly demonstrated in this thread by not taking the time to read the article I posted, which would take you 10 minutes. Instead you are sold packages and options by the manufacturer and dealership. while ignoring consumer reliability and performance reports. You don't have to own a car to use research and test driving to make an informed decision. I HAVE test driven the Altima and Rogue that Nissan offers. Sadly though, many are like you and choose to just ignore certain issues that can happen with cars.
It would behoove you to read the article I posted that mentions Altima years with more susceptibility to CVT problems such as failure at low mileage and determine if it's something you should carefully watch. Then again, it seems you may not care.
Thanks to all who have addressed my question . . . too many of you to quote. I'm stuck in analysis paralysis at the moment and now have further food for thought. I've never had a CVT although my ex did have a Murano. I don't remember being particularly bothered by the lack of apparent shifting and other issues but then I wasn't the driver. My biggest concern is reliability as I'm not too much of a car aficionado - it needs to do its job consistently and reliably and look reasonably attractive while doing it. Oh, and have plenty of room for dog crates in the back. Back to the drawing board!
The fact that they have to program the CVT to simulate gear changes goes to show that most people don't like them. Those simulated gear changes don't fool me, it does NOT feel the same. If you're going to have fake gear changes you might as well have a real automatic transmission IMO.
The post you are responding to didn't say anything about "simulated" shifts. Matter of fact, the poster before it said there are NO shift points. You may or may not like it but nobody is "programming" shifts into CVT.
The Rogue is noisy (exacerbated by CVT drone) and doesn't ride particularly well.
It's fine for what it is... something to pick up at the Hertz counter.
The post you are responding to didn't say anything about "simulated" shifts. Matter of fact, the poster before it said there are NO shift points. You may or may not like it but nobody is "programming" shifts into CVT.
Yes, many of them have fake shifts now. And if you turn that feature off, it just shoots up to redline and stays there. Very annoying.
And I believe Honda is going one step worse in 2018. CVT *and* a tweaky 2.0 liter turbo. Ugh.
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