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This. I think it's more likely that one-plate states will move to two plates than the other way. The purpose of a plate is to identify the vehicle from a distance so two plates obviously makes such identification easier. There are many cases where you might want to identify the vehicle as it is approaching rather than wait until it is leaving. Or cases where only the fron is visible.
Parking lots. Some places have officers cruise parking lots scanning plates for parking validation or outstanding violations. Some people pull into the space and some back into the space.
One might want to scan the front plate to determine if a vehicle is to be granted access to an area. A security gate, say for your community or employer, might scan the front plate and automatically lift the gate if you are authorized.
Law enforcement. Cops could be scanning the plates of oncoming vehicles for outstanding warrants and such, significantly increasing their effectiveness. Next time you drive count the number of cars you pass by going same direction versus opposite direction.
Toll roads. Appears to me the photos are taking as you approach. Some toll roads offer pay by mail and do not require any tags. They scan your plate. I think all toll roads will move to this eventually.
It's also common that someone who is reporting a crime could only get a good look at the front of the vehicle, especially if it's passing by
So again, are we saying that motorcycle riders are not scofflaws and don't need to be identified? No state requires two plates on motorcycles.
One plate states and states with motorcycles seem to have no problem identifying people without a front plate, so why continue the practice? Speed cameras and red light cameras read the rear plates. Officers follow you from the rear. Toll roads take a picture AFTER you've gone through the toll... from the rear. Reading a plate coming towards you or in a parking lot is a flimsy excuse that just doesn't hold up when looked at closely.
So again, are we saying that motorcycle riders are not scofflaws and don't need to be identified? No state requires two plates on motorcycles.
One plate states and states with motorcycles seem to have no problem identifying people without a front plate, so why continue the practice? Speed cameras and red light cameras read the rear plates. Officers follow you from the rear. Toll roads take a picture AFTER you've gone through the toll... from the rear. Reading a plate coming towards you or in a parking lot is a flimsy excuse that just doesn't hold up when looked at closely.
It holds up enough that I'd bet money it will become more prevalent, not less. License plate scanning is exploding in it's uses and effectiveness. You're living in the past.
How about we start requiring front plates for motorcycles? Would that make you happy? Motorcycles make up a small percentage of vehicles on the road. Cycles don't have seatbelts either. Because you cannot apply a security measure 100% is not a justification to not apply it at all.
So again, are we saying that motorcycle riders are not scofflaws and don't need to be identified? No state requires two plates on motorcycles.
One plate states and states with motorcycles seem to have no problem identifying people without a front plate, so why continue the practice? Speed cameras and red light cameras read the rear plates. Officers follow you from the rear. Toll roads take a picture AFTER you've gone through the toll... from the rear. Reading a plate coming towards you or in a parking lot is a flimsy excuse that just doesn't hold up when looked at closely.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about so please keep your ill informed opinion to yourself rather than making useless noise.
"Walden said when researchers began the study they expected law enforcement and safety to be the primary benefits from having two license plates. Turned out, though, it is revenue — and not from the higher price of sticking a second slice of metal to the front of a vehicle.
Instead, the study found that having a second plate makes it easier to photograph those who run stop signs and red lights, don't pay tolls or drive out of unattended pay garages and parking lots without paying. Linking automatic license plate readers to databases also makes it easier to track down scofflaws electronically instead of having human eyeballs view every image to identify license plate numbers.
That adds up to millions of dollars in cost savings and millions more in additional revenue collected, Walden said.
For example, in Colorado (a two-plate state) on the E-470 tollway around the Denver area tolls are collected electronically. One-third of the revenue collected in a 12-month period — $23 million — came from the ability to capture information from front license plates."
"Walden said when researchers began the study they expected law enforcement and safety to be the primary benefits from having two license plates. Turned out, though, it is revenue — and not from the higher price of sticking a second slice of metal to the front of a vehicle.
Instead, the study found that having a second plate makes it easier to photograph those who run stop signs and red lights, don't pay tolls or drive out of unattended pay garages and parking lots without paying. Linking automatic license plate readers to databases also makes it easier to track down scofflaws electronically instead of having human eyeballs view every image to identify license plate numbers.
That adds up to millions of dollars in cost savings and millions more in additional revenue collected, Walden said.
For example, in Colorado (a two-plate state) on the E-470 tollway around the Denver area tolls are collected electronically. One-third of the revenue collected in a 12-month period — $23 million — came from the ability to capture information from front license plates."
Revenue from fines for violating various traffic safety regulations (running red lights or stop signs) or people not paying tolls or parking fees.
So again, are we saying that motorcycle riders are not scofflaws and don't need to be identified? No state requires two plates on motorcycles.
One plate states and states with motorcycles seem to have no problem identifying people without a front plate, so why continue the practice? Speed cameras and red light cameras read the rear plates. Officers follow you from the rear. Toll roads take a picture AFTER you've gone through the toll... from the rear. Reading a plate coming towards you or in a parking lot is a flimsy excuse that just doesn't hold up when looked at closely.
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Originally Posted by oceangaia
It holds up enough that I'd bet money it will become more prevalent, not less. License plate scanning is exploding in it's uses and effectiveness. You're living in the past.
How about we start requiring front plates for motorcycles? Would that make you happy? Motorcycles make up a small percentage of vehicles on the road. Cycles don't have seatbelts either. Because you cannot apply a security measure 100% is not a justification to not apply it at all.
Motorcycles make up about 3% of the registered motor vehicles in the U.S.
Besides motorcycles, he only other situations a front plate isn't used in my state would be unregistered vehicles displaying a temporary paper tag, vehicles registered to licensed dealers, like a demonstrator or the vehicle the GM or owner drives (and I don't see many of those), and trailers. It's common practice in my area for dealers to mount one of their name/logo plates on the front of all vehicles before they are put on the lot for sale, so if you see one coming at you, it's a tipoff that it probably is not yet registered and has a temporary tag on the rear.
Trailers present a problem if the tow vehicle isn't displaying a front plate, because the trailer body and yoke often obscure the rear plate of the tow vehicle. And the trailer isn't always owned by the owner of the tow vehicle.
This is an easy way to die a Final Destination type death. Dont be stupid. A licence plate on the dashboard can easily become a throat slicing projectile. Imagine rear ending someone or making a dicey turn and a metal plate flies right to your neck. Yea... still think it's worse to drill holes in the bumper?
I hate 2 plate states. Y'all who have the detriment of living in such an oppressive state can't get a petition going to dump that stupid law?
Can anybody prove a benefit of two plates vs one?
Maybe back when cars had park benches for bumpers and looked like crap anyway, the front plate was no big deal. But on Corvettes and Ferraris it looks like crap and blocks air going into the radiator.
If someone hits my car, I want double the chance of being able to identify the vehicle. I think all states should require two plates. Macho aesthetic BS be damned. Funny how the two states with the worst drivers (FL and LA) are one plate states. That's where I feel they need it most!
Someone mentioned early on that Corvette's did not have a place for a front plate by design.
Obviously that person has never seen a C5 corvette.
Not only did the design have a place for a front plate, but also designed the front bumper for those who lived in a one plate state.
They covered both situations regarding the design,
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