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Old 11-08-2017, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Removing a snake out of the neighbor's washing machine
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Originally Posted by City Guy997S View Post
Not true........
Brand new 2018 BMW sedan, no sunroof
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-3-Serie...tZ~5qr&vxp=mtr

Probably had to pay extra for factory delete!
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Removing a snake out of the neighbor's washing machine
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What government mandate says that all cars must have sunroofs by 2025?
No mandates, just a reasonable prediction. If it comes to pass any time before m/y 2030 than I wasn't far off.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:24 PM
 
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Not true........
Brand new 2018 BMW sedan, no sunroof
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-3-Serie...tZ~5qr&vxp=mtr
Also, about another million or two new vehicles on the market at any given moment.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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I don’t think so

https://info.glass.com/panoramic-sunroof-stay/
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:16 PM
 
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Really? Weight and fuel savings? That would amount to an additional shot glass of fuel saved over the course of the year.
I’m on my second car with a panoroof and I’m never going back. All the non-panoroof cars feel like sitting in a cave to me.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Really? Weight and fuel savings? That would amount to an additional shot glass of fuel saved over the course of the year.
I’m on my second car with a panoroof and I’m never going back. All the non-panoroof cars feel like sitting in a cave to me.
I would keep your car than because the panorama roof is becoming a liability for automakers, with the exploding ones.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:42 AM
 
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I would keep your car than because the panorama roof is becoming a liability for automakers, with the exploding ones.
It’s extremely rare and largely a Hyundai thing because their roof structure is passing structural load through the glass rather than around it. That’s like assuming automakers will quit using airbags since those made by Takata can explode.
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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It’s extremely rare and largely a Hyundai thing because their roof structure is passing structural load through the glass rather than around it. That’s like assuming automakers will quit using airbags since those made by Takata can explode.

Hyundai isn't the only automaker having trouble with the sunroofs.


https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...nger-overhead/
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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The hard top for my convertible even has a sunroof.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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There's that word again - 'regulation'. Try 'standardization'!

Regulation applies to types of glass used, airbags, corner markers, stuff like that.

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