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Old 11-25-2017, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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Revenue from fines.
Some towns would go bankrupt without those fines!
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Which means that people will end up driving around 90-95. Too many people on their cellphone while driving to raise the speed limit if you ask me.
Wrong. The speed limit is already 80 mph on I-84 in Idaho and most people do not do 90-95. Studies have shown that increasing the speed limit has little impact on average speeds because people don't drive "speed limits" they drive the speed they feel comfortable.
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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Which means that people will end up driving around 90-95. Too many people on their cellphone while driving to raise the speed limit if you ask me.
When Maryland proposed raising the speed limit from 55 mph years ago, opponents predicted a corresponding rise in average speeds and increased accidents. It didn't happen. Average speeds barely increased and the difference between mean speed and the posted speed limit - a much more important data point in terms of safety - decreased dramatically. At 55, the mean speed over the limit was 8 mph. At 65, it was only 1.7 mph.

Most people will drive the speed they're comfortable with, regardless of a sign on the side of the road emblazoned with an arbitrary number commanding otherwise.

However, I agree that the dramatic rise in distracted driving, a big part of which is cell phone usage, makes the issue more complex than in years past.
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:39 PM
 
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Which means that people will end up driving around 90-95. Too many people on their cellphone while driving to raise the speed limit if you ask me.
Doesn't seem to be a problem in states where the speed limit is 80mph now.
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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Alright folks, with all the bell and whistles modern cars have what do you think the speed limit should be. I vote for 130KM/h or 80 miles per hour. Most people travel that speed anyways
Speed limits are supposed to be set by traffic engineers based on 85th percentile measured vehicle speeds. Instead, in the U.S., speed limits are set by politicians for revenue generation purposes.
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:46 PM
 
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I vote for 80 as well.

As added benefit, people who think they're so smart and everyone else isn't get upset, leave the country and move to Germany. I've been told it takes a year to get a license there and you have to be super smart to get one.

Win win.
These countries also have 130 km/hr (81 mph) speed limits:

Austria
Italy
France
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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There are interstates in PA that are 65, but have areas with numerous warning signs to go down to 45 because of the bends around the mountains. You won't make it around those turns doing 80 in the average car. You'd roll in an SUV....down the side of a mountain. Yeah no thanks!

What's your hurry?
Don't people driving 65 on the Pa Turnpike slow down to 45 when they approach these curves? Why couldn't they slow down from 80?

Hate to tell you, even in Germany there are curves on the Autobahn where drivers need to slow down. They do not have an issue doing that.

The speed limit on the Kansas Turnpike was 80mph before the 55 nonsense started in 1974. Nevada and Montana had no set speed limit prior to 1974.
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Old 11-25-2017, 05:14 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Montana raised the speed limit on limited access highways (freeways) to 80 MPH.
Of course, we only have three freeways: I-15 North and south, I-90 from the Idaho border to Wyoming, and I-94 from near Billings to North Dakota.
Many years ago we had a "Reasonable and Prudent" speed limit on all major highways. That is, until some Easterner sued the state.
Then the Feds declared we had to have the "Double Nickel" (55 MPH) speed limit, that accomplished exactly nothing.
Not what happened. You had "reasonable and prudent" until 1974 when the NMSL of "double nickle" clicked in. In 1987 or 1988 (I forget which) the Feds allowed 65 mph on "rural" highways. On December 1, 1995 the Feds repealed the federal speed limits. Montana went back to "reasonable and prudent." Governor Racicot encouraged someone to sue on the grounds that "reasonable and prudent" was vague. Then the legislature reinstituted a numerical limit, at 75 mph. Some roads were just raised to 80 mph.

And by the way, in my state, New York, I favor 75 in rural areas, 60 in urban and suburban areas, differing elsewhere where appropriate.
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Old 11-25-2017, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Default Take heed from this old fart. Slow down.

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Alright folks, with all the bell and whistles modern cars have what do you think the speed limit should be. I vote for 130KM/h or 80 miles per hour. Most people travel that speed anyways
Absolutely not.
Personal injury attorneys will tell you to avoid serious injury or death you must get the car down below 40 MPH. It is harder to get down below 40 at 80 than from 70.

I had a lead foot and a powerful car when I was in my twenties. DMV sent me to a class for speeders. It stuck. Time is the most important factor in an emergency. Excess speed deprives you of time.

Take heed from this old fart. Slow down.
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Old 11-25-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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Donno. Does it really matter that much? What's the rush? Traffic will negate any speed limits to what's physically possible. Crappy roads will tear suspension on "modern cars" in heartbeat at high speeds.
And either way, what's the rush? So you go 10mph faster than you did before. So you - maybe - get to your destination a minute faster. What have you gained? Threatened your life? others lives? For what? Death will catch you anyway, why hasten the date?
See dude with walker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk2YRpLnmdU

Doesn't matter, what speed limit is.
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