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Old 12-12-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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i have mixed feelings about this. carbon fiber is light, and strong, but it can be fragile, and difficult to repair.
This is why I have no interest in an aluminum truck. Tears and dents easily and too expensive to fix.

I do not know enough about carbon fiber to know whether it has the same issues. You certainly cannot weld a replacement bit into it. Fiberglass repairs?

It woudl be dumb for the bed as mentioned. Hood and front fenders might be ok. It is the rear that takes most of the abuse.

I will try to remember to ask my son what he thinks. He lives and breathes rowing and their boats are made of carbon fiber. He knows a lot about it from the practical (rather than technical or theoretical) viewpoint.
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Old 12-12-2017, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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This is why I have no interest in an aluminum truck. Tears and dents easily and too expensive to fix.

I do not know enough about carbon fiber to know whether it has the same issues. You certainly cannot weld a replacement bit into it. Fiberglass repairs?

It woudl be dumb for the bed as mentioned. Hood and front fenders might be ok. It is the rear that takes most of the abuse.

I will try to remember to ask my son what he thinks. He lives and breathes rowing and their boats are made of carbon fiber. He knows a lot about it from the practical (rather than technical or theoretical) viewpoint.
I think GM has researched this after all they have engineers, and designers we on here are not engineers so we can’t say it’s a lousy idea.
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Old 12-12-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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Ironically carbon fiber is weaker and more expensive then Aluminium GM has attacked Ford for using Aluminium because its weak as well so i am going to get a Toyota Tundra or Tacoma
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Old 12-12-2017, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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I think GM has researched this after all they have engineers, and designers we on here are not engineers so we can’t say it’s a lousy idea.
Yes we can. Ford's aluminum trucks are a lousy idea. Their engineers and designers thought it was a great idea.

It is the consumer who decide what we will buy, not the engineers. If you think engineers are infallible and never turn out lousy ideas, you do not have much experience with cars and trucks.

Sometimes the engineers know something is a lousy idea but the auto mfgs turn it out anyway. There are all kinds of reasons for this.
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Old 12-12-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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My 2010 Tacoma has some type of carbon-fiber bed, and I haven't had any problems. That said, I haven't done much to "put it to the test," but I do know they are fine with normal use.
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Old 12-12-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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I think GM has researched this after all they have engineers, and designers we on here are not engineers so we can’t say it’s a lousy idea.
I am.
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Old 12-12-2017, 03:46 PM
 
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This is why I have no interest in an aluminum truck. Tears and dents easily and too expensive to fix.

I do not know enough about carbon fiber to know whether it has the same issues. You certainly cannot weld a replacement bit into it. Fiberglass repairs?

It woudl be dumb for the bed as mentioned. Hood and front fenders might be ok. It is the rear that takes most of the abuse.

I will try to remember to ask my son what he thinks. He lives and breathes rowing and their boats are made of carbon fiber. He knows a lot about it from the practical (rather than technical or theoretical) viewpoint.
You essentially do a fiberglass repair, but with carbon fiber.
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Old 12-13-2017, 08:46 AM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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I think it would be alright. Do the shell in a light but strong carbon fiber. Why not? The working part of the bed is inside, as is the structural parts of the doors. The tailgate on my Ram is a pain to lift (I need both hands basically) as it weighs so much but my brothers 04 F150 it is about as light as it can be.
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Old 12-13-2017, 05:03 PM
 
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It seems odd to reduce the bed’s weight. That’s the lightest part of the truck. The weight savings needs to be in the front.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Yes we can. Ford's aluminum trucks are a lousy idea. Their engineers and designers thought it was a great idea.

It is the consumer who decide what we will buy, not the engineers. If you think engineers are infallible and never turn out lousy ideas, you do not have much experience with cars and trucks.

Sometimes the engineers know something is a lousy idea but the auto mfgs turn it out anyway. There are all kinds of reasons for this.
Well I guess Ford didn't think so, the F150 is even with an aluminum bed and body—earned a 2017 10Best award. Ford F-series (733,287 sold) #1 in the country so I guess Ford going to aluminum beds did not effect sales of their #1 money maker.
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