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Old 12-29-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: PSL
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From what ive seen, semi trucks are part of the problem when it comes to heavy traffic. Im not srue why they cannot build them to be more powerful, get them on the slightest grade and they cant maintain the speed limit, that is seriously underpowered imo!
They could without all of the emissions crap that hurts them.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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For those who live anywhere near there, the answer is simple:
Never, EVER, enter that town, period! No matter what the time of day.
For those of us who do not live near there, the answer is even simpler:
Do not go to New Jersey, EVER!
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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Yeah, I don't think this will fly. You can outlaw certain vehicle types if it's unsafe, noisy or a hazard, but the average sedan is not a violation of any of that. And what about local business owners? What will they think of that?

The local lawyers probably thought this law up and they'll be racking up fees as the town goes to court to defend it.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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That is why there would be a suit, to prove the point that to restrict travel is to restrict commerce. I'd think this point has been settled at SCOTUS long ago, but IANAL.
Oh no. You sound like one of those "everything is unconstitutional" nuts. The Commerce Clause is always the misused passage of choice.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Oh no. You sound like one of those "everything is unconstitutional" nuts. The Commerce Clause is always the misused passage of choice.
No, I's say the first, second, and fifth amendments are most cited.
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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It would seem to be illegal to outlaw vehicles from State or County routes. City streets might be an exception (though I'm not a traffic lawyer so I am not sure). I do remember one city posted "local traffic only" signs on streets during a road construction project and drivers were even ticketed when visiting people in the neighborhood. I have a possible solution: enact tolls, with City residents getting free pass.
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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It would seem to be illegal to outlaw vehicles from State or County routes. City streets might be an exception (though I'm not a traffic lawyer so I am not sure). I do remember one city posted "local traffic only" signs on streets during a road construction project and drivers were even ticketed when visiting people in the neighborhood. I have a possible solution: enact tolls, with City residents getting free pass.
Limiting traffic during construction is perfectly acceptable as they have work to do and it's a temporary ban. The ban talked about in the OP is totally different. My question is there any federal money being used construction and/or maintenance.
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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It would seem to be illegal to outlaw vehicles from State or County routes. City streets might be an exception (though I'm not a traffic lawyer so I am not sure). I do remember one city posted "local traffic only" signs on streets during a road construction project and drivers were even ticketed when visiting people in the neighborhood. I have a possible solution: enact tolls, with City residents getting free pass.
Yes, that would be like restricting travel on Main Street in Billings Heights.
While it is true that it is a City Street (Main Street), it is also Montana Highway 3 from I-90 to Airport Road, and U.S. Highway 87 from I-90 to just outside the City Limits, and U.S. Highway 312 from I-90 to Pompey's Pillar and beyond (87 and 312 split just outside the City Limits; 87 goes North to Roundup.)
Since it is also a Truck Route, I doubt if the City could restrict traffic there.
So, do any of the streets in this New Jersey town have State or U.S. highway designations? If so, I see a court case in the offing!
EDIT: Looking at my road atlas, the only road through the town is "Fort Lee Road". No State or U.S. highways. The atlas map is not detailed enough to show any rural routes around the town, so we are back to my previous post: Just don't go there!
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Old 12-29-2017, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Part of the problem in NJ is too many highway tolls and folks that drive Uber or commercial cars that go through them frequently do not want to pay so they go through neighborhood roads that don't have tolls.
That is not a problem. It is a necessity.
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I worked in Leonia many moons ago, I can not see any way that they could enforce such a rule on those streets.
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