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Old 02-01-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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So are we. And if we can think of it, so can they. It's that simple.
Interesting that you chose to write "can" instead of "will". I'm referring to the second "can".
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I don't know why people are still talking about a tech that will NOT become a consumer tech in the last 15-20 years yet. There is zero consumer interest from the companies making autonomous tech. They are all only interested in making a business out of operating or selling fleet cars.

Tesla clearly states their cars have these assists but they are not full autonomous. If you get hurt or killed, they clearly states that you are supposed to keep your hand on the wheel at all times.

Waymo is only interested in taxi and car pool service as well as deliveries.

Toyota just announced their delivery autonomous tech.

The future they keep talking about is having less car ownership world and having more than 50% of the population subscribe to car services. Even if you disagree, it's more likely that you won't be able to afford one and the insurance policy necessary for one as autonomous cars can kill other drivers in an accident it will need a special insurance.
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Old 02-02-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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I don't know why people are still talking about a tech that will NOT become a consumer tech in the last 15-20 years yet. There is zero consumer interest from the companies making autonomous tech. They are all only interested in making a business out of operating or selling fleet cars.

Tesla clearly states their cars have these assists but they are not full autonomous. If you get hurt or killed, they clearly states that you are supposed to keep your hand on the wheel at all times.

Waymo is only interested in taxi and car pool service as well as deliveries.

Toyota just announced their delivery autonomous tech.

The future they keep talking about is having less car ownership world and having more than 50% of the population subscribe to car services. Even if you disagree, it's more likely that you won't be able to afford one and the insurance policy necessary for one as autonomous cars can kill other drivers in an accident it will need a special insurance.
It’s not profitable to limit your market when the development cost remains the same either way.

It might start with fleet, but luxury car buyers are going to want more toys and they have to stay competitive with the rest of the market. Then all the other cars will get them to lower hardware cost. Once the software is ironed out, there’s 0 cost into rolling it to any car with the correct hardware. It would be like Microsoft limiting their software to specific businesses only.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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The latest issue of Motor Trend had an article about this, and they predicted we are decades away. The biggest reasons were the condition of our roads, and liability to manufacturers.
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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The latest issue of Motor Trend had an article about this, and they predicted we are decades away. The biggest reasons were the condition of our roads, and liability to manufacturers.
Bingo, and they haven't even started to discuss how they will overcome those two obstacles. First the technology will have to be perfected enough so the manufacturers will feel comfortable to accept the incredible liability. We are not close to there yet. Secondly every single road in the country will have to be mapped and upgraded to accommodate driverless cars. That is not going to happen overnight, and unfortunately taxpayers will have to foot the massive bill for the infrastructure improvements.
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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This is an interesting article on the timeline. Which I think backs up my previous prediction that the first driverless car will be sold about 2030. Followed by a gradual adoption rate.

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VP of research predicts adoption rates will be gradual

Although Ford said it would deliver fully autonomous cars to ride-sharing services by 2021, the automaker has yet to reveal a specific timeline for the consumer adoption of its driverless technology. In a new report, a Ford executive offers up a slightly more precise estimate for when we might expect to purchase an autonomous car.

Consumers will be able to buy a fully autonomous vehicle sometime between 2026 and 2031, says Ken Washington, Ford’s vice president of research and advanced engineering. “It’s really hard to guess and predict the pace of the technology,” he said during his keynote address at the SAE WCX World Congress Experience. “Our current view is the adoption rates will be relatively gradual.”

Ford had already admitted that individual consumers would have to wait several years for autonomous car technology to come their way. Previous comments from CEO Mark Fields had suggested a 2025 rollout of robot cars for personal use.
Ford Exec_ You Won’t Be Able to Buy a Driverless Car Until After 2025 - Motor Trend

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Old 02-03-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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Really curious how Google or Tesla or whomever is going to prevent suicide driverless car bombs.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-...152852481.html
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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really curious how google or tesla or whomever is going to prevent suicide driverless car bombs.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-...152852481.html
if there is no driver, how can it be suicide??
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Old 02-03-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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if there is no driver, how can it be suicide??
I stand corrected. Make that driverless car bombs.
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Old 02-03-2018, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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if there is no driver, how can it be suicide??
They have already figured out, the driverless vehicles can be hacked. Hacked into, there is no limit the damage that can be done. Imagine a 40,000 lb. big rig at some one else's intentions.
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