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The car should have braked. There was enough time for the driver to react. The LIDAR should have reacted even quicker. Both the driver and the car failed. Self-driving cars are not safer than a car driven by a fully attentive driver. Please stop making excuses for them.
I have driven well over a million miles in the last 42 years, in all types of driving conditions. I think I know a few things about real world driving.
And this comment doesn't mean squat. Anybody can drive a million miles, that doesn't mean you are a good driver or even know about driving conditions.
Contrary to what you believe, I'm not making excuses for them. I'm stating that some things are unavoidable no matter what is going to happen. Just as human drivers are not perfect, self driving vehicles are not going to be perfect, if anything for the simple fact that humans program the software to control the car. It is sad that this lady is dead, but a lot will be learned from this in hopes that it won't happen again. Just like EVERY technological advancement out there. You learn from mistakes and yes that means even if a life is lost.
No, that is the sad part. There is not anything to be learned from this lost life. This scenario was very simple, well understood, and well studied.
Contrary to what you believe, I'm not making excuses for them. I'm stating that some things are unavoidable no matter what is going to happen. Just as human drivers are not perfect, self driving vehicles are not going to be perfect, if anything for the simple fact that humans program the software to control the car. It is sad that this lady is dead, but a lot will be learned from this in hopes that it won't happen again. Just like EVERY technological advancement out there. You learn from mistakes and yes that means even if a life is lost.
No, that is the sad part. There is not anything to be learned from this lost life. This scenario was very simple, well understood, and well studied.
The scenario where the car's technology (potentially) fails, the backup human driver isn't paying attention, and a jaywalker doesn't look is well understood?
I don't agree with the idea that you can divide the world into good drivers and bad drivers. It is not that simple. Just by being human, all people have moments when they are sick, tired, or distracted and moments when they are at their best.
Here's the thing -- you have to be at your best every time you take the road.
And that lady should have been paying freaking attention!
The person in the car looked like they were sleeping..
Also from the video shown....I would think that a person would have tried swerving to try to avoid hitting the person..but since a person wasn't in charge of the driving..I guess we will never know.
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The scenario where the car's technology (potentially) fails, the backup human driver isn't paying attention, and a jaywalker doesn't look is well understood?
A single, unexpected object in the path of the car, in darkness... yes this is a well understood and well studied problem.
WayMo has already concluded the backup drivers are ineffective and are therefore pushing to eliminate them.
It is clear the car failed in a very fundamental way. These basic systems need to be extremely solid before cars are allowed on the streets. We should not be killing people in the process of perfecting this level of functionality.
A single, unexpected object in the path of the car, in darkness... yes this is a well understood and well studied problem.
WayMo has already concluded the backup drivers are ineffective and are therefore pushing to eliminate them.
It is clear the car failed in a very fundamental way. These basic systems need to be extremely solid before cars are allowed on the streets. We should not be killing people in the process of perfecting this level of functionality.
The woman was wearing all black jaywalking at night across an 8-lane road. It's a shame she died but it's not legally the driver's fault.
I saw footage of the accident, the bad news is that it was a situation where an especially cautious human would have been able to see her and stop. A human caught in normal distractions; i.e. looking at speedometer or road signs, might have missed her. But autonomous driving computers are supposed to be better in these circumstances than humans (i.e. rely on radar and not light), and it failed in this instance.
Conclusion: a human probably would have hit her too, but they need to work on making the computer better.
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