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But beach off road isn’t as dirty or as damaging as rock woods or mud. Sure the truck can get stuck and ride comes in. But for the most part you don’t have the damage potential you would in the woods rocks or mud.That’s all I’m getting at.
And that is what gets many first timers on the beach into a lot of problems. Beach damage is a lot of times invisible. Go too fast through a puddle or flooded roadway to the access and upon cleaning you may have a nice rig - but you don't see the corrosion starting in the electrical system from saltwater. Likewise sand kicked up into the undercarriage and engine area carries damaging salt as well. One can keep a frame and driveline rust free and looking new for a while but it eventually gets to it and surface rust takes over.
Oh yea, and let the wind kick up to about 20 plus and you can see a side of a pretty truck sand blasted to the point of needing paint.
Back to the point of this thread, that is one reason I like oversized tires and a lift on my truck. If beach access is flooded, which happens a good bit during fall storms, I can crawl through water and the height of the sidewalls (hate large diameter rims) will not hit rims, hubs, or breaks. Likewise at crawl speeds I can avoid kicking up a lot of the sand and salt up into the "vitals" of my truck. Though if I start spinning the tires that theory goes out the window) That kind of driving and being up a bit has saved my 07 ram from rusting out and I drive on the beaches a good bit.
And that is what gets many first timers on the beach into a lot of problems. Beach damage is a lot of times invisible. Go too fast through a puddle or flooded roadway to the access and upon cleaning you may have a nice rig - but you don't see the corrosion starting in the electrical system from saltwater. Likewise sand kicked up into the undercarriage and engine area carries damaging salt as well. One can keep a frame and driveline rust free and looking new for a while but it eventually gets to it and surface rust takes over.
Oh yea, and let the wind kick up to about 20 plus and you can see a side of a pretty truck sand blasted to the point of needing paint.
Back to the point of this thread, that is one reason I like oversized tires and a lift on my truck. If beach access is flooded, which happens a good bit during fall storms, I can crawl through water and the height of the sidewalls (hate large diameter rims) will not hit rims, hubs, or breaks. Likewise at crawl speeds I can avoid kicking up a lot of the sand and salt up into the "vitals" of my truck. Though if I start spinning the tires that theory goes out the window) That kind of driving and being up a bit has saved my 07 ram from rusting out and I drive on the beaches a good bit.
saltwater and other junk may get kicked up underneath, but whenever it rains and you are driving, that also gets kicked up and rinses it off to some degree.
Lifted trucks should be illegal. They are a roll over risk and they are very dangerous if they crash into a normal vehicle since they bypass the frame of the other vehicle and smash into the occupants and will end up rolling the truck.
Dangerous to both the truck user and others. They need to amend the "street legal" rules to mandate crash compatible bumper heights and well as proper height to width ratio for vehicles. A quick avoidance maneuver can roll some of these idiotic trucks. You can't drive "whatever you want". There are rules that are made for vehicles on public roads.
SUVs are a rollover risk too, and many even say that on the sun visor.......... ban them too?
This is not street legal in any state, (tires sticking out well beyond the wheel wells). Even if he did have a flat tire, he would have to call one of those heavy truck mobile mechanics to change it.
And that is what gets many first timers on the beach into a lot of problems. Beach damage is a lot of times invisible. Go too fast through a puddle or flooded roadway to the access and upon cleaning you may have a nice rig - but you don't see the corrosion starting in the electrical system from saltwater. Likewise sand kicked up into the undercarriage and engine area carries damaging salt as well. One can keep a frame and driveline rust free and looking new for a while but it eventually gets to it and surface rust takes over.
Oh yea, and let the wind kick up to about 20 plus and you can see a side of a pretty truck sand blasted to the point of needing paint.
Back to the point of this thread, that is one reason I like oversized tires and a lift on my truck. If beach access is flooded, which happens a good bit during fall storms, I can crawl through water and the height of the sidewalls (hate large diameter rims) will not hit rims, hubs, or breaks. Likewise at crawl speeds I can avoid kicking up a lot of the sand and salt up into the "vitals" of my truck. Though if I start spinning the tires that theory goes out the window) That kind of driving and being up a bit has saved my 07 ram from rusting out and I drive on the beaches a good bit.
First timers are gonna get ambushed regardless if they’re on a beach, woods, rocks, mud or desert.
Ultimately actually going off road will show signs on a vehicle regardless of how hard you try and keep it new. For the most part ANY off road excursion will have the possibility of doing some type of damage to a vehicle. Regardless if it’s a beach run or in the woods back country rock crawling.
The surface you're driving on will eventually impact the undercarriages springs wheel wells, and body of the vehicle. And leave signs.
As for lifted trucks I don’t much mind. Some are ridiculously lifted and absolute pavement queens. And easily seen. Nobody is going to buy a truck for 70,000 and drop 40,000 in lift paint and wheels stereo and go off road. Those trucks are for show. I install bigger tires, winches and camper shells on my trucks. I don’t mess with my trucks. For my off road use they are set up right. . When I was younger I lifted them more because I was into more challenging off road.
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This is not street legal in any state, (tires sticking out well beyond the wheel wells). Even if he did have a flat tire, he would have to call one of those heavy truck mobile mechanics to change it.
Most normal things n the riadcthat than flatten a regular tire won’t even penetrate that tread on the tire. Much less the casing. But yeah that thing is most likely a truck built for deep mud.
Maybe the guy enjoys 4 miles to the gallon
Yes, I will agree that the really lifted vehicles are usually for show. Though I like them. Some modify sports cars and tune the Japenese cars etc. Some like vehicles perfectly stock. I like lifted trucks, even if they are pavement queens. But, I like them done correctly, so they are safe. Now for those who feel there is no use for those types of trucks, there actually is. Mud! Deep mud. I don't even know if an all terrain type tread exists on te truly oversized tires (above 40") as once you get in that height they are typically designed with a mud tread.
This is not street legal in any state, (tires sticking out well beyond the wheel wells). Even if he did have a flat tire, he would have to call one of those heavy truck mobile mechanics to change it.
The driver probably owns a heavy duty truck shop to begin with.
And don't ever say something is illegal on a technicality without citing either code or case law.
That is an Arizona plate, where they don't care much for Mickey-Mouse laws, and enjoy life much more than the rest of us do. All the off-roaders I know in California visit as often as they can, sometimes accidentally registering wheeled contraptions on that side of the river, etc. You can drive ATVs down the street in Arizona, and I see those guys on ATVs breaking the law in California all the time, with no Californians suffering any damage except jealousy. It is easy to hate the Arizonans, as the guy with the picture knows.
By the way, you need tires that big to ford the Colorado River if you don't want to drive all the way down to a bridge.
Yes, I will agree that the really lifted vehicles are usually for show. Though I like them. Some modify sports cars and tune the Japenese cars etc. Some like vehicles perfectly stock. I like lifted trucks, even if they are pavement queens. But, I like them done correctly, so they are safe. Now for those who feel there is no use for those types of trucks, there actually is. Mud! Deep mud. I don't even know if an all terrain type tread exists on te truly oversized tires (above 40") as once you get in that height they are typically designed with a mud tread.
I’m the same way. I don’t care how modified your vehicle is because I’m not the one driving or paying for it. As far as the treads and sizes I think once you go beyond a 38 inch you’re in basically mud tread tire only. I think Dick Cepek has some mild tread for sand. But for the most part it’s mud treads
I generally don't judge people by what they drive, but I do see things from time to time that just plain look stupid.
Donks
Not sure what they are called but they are generally smallish sedans, lowered, wheels sticking out of the wheel well with a huge amount of negative (?) camber and tires stretched onto the wheel.
The occasional late 70's throwback, that lifts their muscle car. I don't see it too much , but damn it's stupid.
And then these lifted trucks. Now, I drive a 3/4 ton diesel, which sits high from the factory but it's the 6" , 8", 12" or more lifts that just look dumb...then the wheels offset outside the wheel well and with tires stretched onto the wheel. Wtf are they thinking ? Just horrible.
To each their own, but ask me my opinion and you won't like the answer...LOL
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