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That's because for Honda/Toyota the parts are easily sourced and every car shop can repair them. I wouldn't want to be stuck with an old MB or BMW on the side of the road. I've seen a lot of German cars overheat because the water pumps aren't replaced on time and the engine overheats. Water pump is not expensive but difficult to replace on MB and BMWs so lots of people just skip out on replacing them.
If I want a luxury cheap to own car, it has to be Acura, virtually 70% of parts shared with Honda. Lexus too but they've started to do less sharing.
We've owned 5 Toyotas, a Sequoia and 4 4Runners. Total non-routine maintenance costs are less than $2,000. I'll stay with Toyota.
Same here. My money saving, repair avoiding strategy is to avoid american cars (& frankly most american ppl). I only buy lexus or toyota; and they have to have a J vin. I won't even let 'mericans build my japanese car. I don't want Italian food that is made by a mexican either.
Some domestics can be very pricey to repair certain things too. If you have a Ford with the 3.5L that went into everything between 2007- to current in FWD applications and the $100 water pump fails, it is a close to $2000 job to repalce it due to the 10-14hrs labor involved taking the engine out and apart to repair it.
Toyota 3.5L water pumps are $1000 to replace due to dropping the egine as well.
A stretched timing chain on GM 3.6L engines is typically $2-3000+ to fix,but mainly 08-12 models had those problems.
CVT failures seems to be $4-7000 to replace the transmissions.
So modern cars are generally bot cheap to fix now wit hall the D.I, Turbos, and all the extra added stuff to go along with extremely tight engine bays in these cars now, but still not as mad as some of the insane repair quotes ive seen on some BMW or Benz
On the German car thing. A buddy bought a 2001 M5 to flip with 88K miles on it back in 2010. The previous owner was with meticulous about maintenance and record keeping. Looking over the maintenance receipts he had a touch over $33K in repair receipts for a 9 yr old car with 88K miles.
33k in repairs? That is plain insanity, but I believe it.
Where do people draw the line? Of course E39 M5 is a legend, arguably the greatest sports sedan in history but my god, I could never spend that kind of money to keep it running. It's not that special.
It's like my buddy who dumps 3-4k a year to keep his 2000 328i on the road, never-mind it's worth half that.
I frankly don't understand the thought processes of some German car owners.
And don't get me wrong, I'd love a Mercedes. Just never out of warranty.
Back when they came out, it was the Audi A8. First totally Aluminum car sold in the US. For the first year, there was only about 5 body shops in the country that could fix them. Any accident, you had to ship off to them and wait, and wait, and wait.
Toyota anything. My brother is a Toyota freak. For what he spends every year keeping his Toyota crap on the street he could buy a new Ford and never have to fix anything, just keep buying new Fords every 3 years. How crappy can a truck get when the steering box fails? He's had to replace his in his Tacoma twice now at $4800.00 a pop. Over $1,000 for universal joints....and the factory originals didn't even have 100,000 miles on them. For a factory muffler you have to replace the entire exhaust system. That's another $600.00. The truck only has 115,000 miles on it. His wifes 2016 Forerunner Limited 4x4 has more miles on the back of a wrecker than going down the hiway under its own power. I laugh every time I see him and of course, we have to take my Ford F150 cause his "superior" Toyota crap is either in the shop or doesn't run. When I talked with him yesterday, none of his Toyotas will start and run. Maybe one of these days he'll sober up and quit with the rice wine BS.
For the past 20 years I've only bought Nissan Honda and Toyota. That's not going to change anytime soon. There's nothing better than getting in a car and having it go every time. I've owned about 15 American brands before I switched. Never looking back
I'll share feedback from a buddy who owns body shop. His choice of worst to fix car is Tesla. Cheaply made and LOTS of aluminum panels and, as you know, you can't put aluminum panels onto stretching frame. Aluminum simply tears, so panels have to replaced in entirety = $$$$
Others may disagree but I think the frequency and cost of routine maintenance on a Subaru is ridiculous, which is one of the reasons we traded in our Outback.
With today's technology, I think 10,000 mile intervals between oil changes and longer intervals for other routine maintenance is much more reasonable and speaks to how much advancement has occurred in just the past 5-10 years.
Gee Skippy, looky here! A steering box for a Tacoma! Ya know, the steering box that's on EVERY Tacoma. And no, it wasn't $4800.00 for 2 steering boxes, that price is per each for a total of $9600.00 for the steering boxes. You have to be some kind of stupid to pay for crap like that. That's why Toyota has been under federal investigation for price gouging on Toyota parts.
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The 6.75 litre motor is just about the most stout motor made today! I wouldn't sweat that one
My Flying Spur has the 6L W12. In Bentley spec it's a $70k engine.
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