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Old 05-29-2018, 03:01 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Literally all cars are now governed electronically to a certain speed limit. 110 or 115. Not going to go faster.

My estimate of the top speed of a 3,000-lb. car, with good streamlining, typical gearing and 200 H.P., would be just about that same level, of 110 to 115 mph. I assume there is some business in hacking cars, to remove the governor feature.
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Old 05-29-2018, 06:24 AM
 
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My estimate of the top speed of a 3,000-lb. car, with good streamlining, typical gearing and 200 H.P., would be just about that same level, of 110 to 115 mph. I assume there is some business in hacking cars, to remove the governor feature.

I would suggest that is a little underestimated. I have Lacrosse and it has 200HP, 3500 pounds. At about 85 or 90 it shifts into third and there is a lot of acceleration left at that point. Cruising along at 90 or 95 there is plenty of power left if you need it.
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Old 05-29-2018, 06:34 AM
 
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with just this limited information, top speed 125-130ish, quarter mile idk maybe high 15s?

a lot of other factors though.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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Literally all cars are now governed electronically to a certain speed limit. 110 or 115. Not going to go faster.

Today, BMW, Audi, Volkswagen and Mercedes-Benz limit their production cars to 250 kilometres per hour (155 mph). Certain Quattro GmbH and AMG cars, and the Mercedes/McLaren SLR is an exception.
Which is it, literally or figuratively?
Cause you say literally, but the second sentence of your snip says that Audi and MB don't on every car.

Some cars are drag limited. Some are gearing limited. Some are electronically limited.

The equation for top speed is v=(2P/(c * D * A))^(1/3)
v = velocity (m/s)
P = power (W)
D = Air density (kg/m^3)
A = frontal area (m^2)
c = drag

or

F = 1/2 (c *A * D * v^2)

OP:
should be about 3+ seconds faster quarter
should be a variable amount faster on a track
should be about 2 seconds faster to 60mph/62mph/100kph
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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One HP=one MPH.

Heh.


Why make life complicated, right? LOL
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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This is close for drag times

https://robrobinette.com/et.htm?weig...x=0&submit.y=0
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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speed , as in how many MPH you can go, does not depend fully on displacement. Weight, gear ratio, suspension, and tires have more to do with it. I drove a Geo Metro, with the 1.3l engine, reached a scary 110 mph. Drove a Mustabg GT , 110 mph, still sort of scary. I also drove a tuned Miata with wide rims and updated suspension, 118 mph and still felt safe (maybe it was the roll bar).

As for 1/4 mile times, a strong engine, with sticky tires, and great reaction time gets you there quick.
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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Literally all cars are now governed electronically to a certain speed limit. 110 or 115. Not going to go faster.

I haven't had a car my whole life that was governed at that speed. Even the new ones.
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Old 05-29-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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speed , as in how many MPH you can go, does not depend fully on displacement. Weight, gear ratio, suspension, and tires have more to do with it. I drove a Geo Metro, with the 1.3l engine, reached a scary 110 mph. Drove a Mustabg GT , 110 mph, still sort of scary. I also drove a tuned Miata with wide rims and updated suspension, 118 mph and still felt safe (maybe it was the roll bar).

As for 1/4 mile times, a strong engine, with sticky tires, and great reaction time gets you there quick.


Weight has nothing to do with top speed, only how long it takes to get there. Top speed's a function of HP and aerodynamic drag and a gear ratio that let's the engine achieve max RPM.
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Old 05-29-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Wyoming
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I don't drive fast these days, but I had '86 and '88 Saab 9000 Turbos that weighed right at 3000 pounds. Both developed 175 hp and would do 140 mph... very comfortably, I might add. These were clean cars for the era, but that's still 30 year old technology, so I'd guess that, with similar gearing and slightly improved aerodynamics, 200 hp should be enough for 150 mph.

Those were extremely nice cars, btw. That's why I replaced my '86 with a duplicate in '88 and why I kept the '88 for 12 years/180K miles.
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