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Old 06-27-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: London
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That doesn't do me any good traveling 600 miles. I don't want a drip charge, I want a 5 minute fill up anywhere at anytime. EVs are offering me a solution to a problem I do not have.
Sorry poison fanatic, but few people want to charge up in 5 mins and run 600 miles away not stopping. Most have a bladder that means they have to stop. I have never filled a a large tank up and been in and out the filling station in 5 minutes. You must stop making things up. You will be driving an EV and sooner than you think whether you like it or not. The tipping point has been reached.

 
Old 06-27-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: London
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LOL, we already know it's not "your mouth"
I am reporting what has happened. The tipping point has been reached. Don't shoot the messenger.
 
Old 06-27-2018, 04:42 PM
 
Location: London
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As if you know what that is.
I once worked as an analyst.
 
Old 06-27-2018, 04:53 PM
 
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The idea is to get clean air and rid ourselves of poisoning vehicles. If you think a handful of auto giants and Big oil is the free market then you are in cloud cuckoo land.
That’s your problem. You want clean air and think they means everybody else does as well. You can’t be further from the truth. Environment alone doesn’t drive purchasing decisions, that would be economics, style, and convenience. Otherwise everybody would bikes to work and live in a yurt.

If you actually cared for clean air, you would be promoting biking, public transport, or walking. Instead you want industry to solve a problem created by industry.

You want the entire rest of the world to conform to what you feel is convenient to you at the expense of everyone else while you give up nothing because you live in an apartment in London with 4 subsidized chargers. That’s the equivalent of a rural farmer complaining that city dwellers should just use horses.
 
Old 06-27-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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I once worked as an analyst.
“Once” being the key word.
 
Old 06-27-2018, 04:55 PM
 
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I am reporting what has happened. The tipping point has been reached. Don't shoot the messenger.
If it was reached your thread wouldn’t be necessary.
 
Old 06-27-2018, 04:56 PM
 
Location: London
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It's even more interesting than that. ICE was originally successful because it burned a waste by-product ofthe kerosene industry that they were having trouble disposing of. That being gasoline. It was the "green" solution to help them otherwise dispose of what was considered toxic waste.
So they had the toxic waste burnt and pumped into our lungs.
American Lung Assoc. Says LA Air Quality Among Worst in U.S.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...480140923.html

Air Quality facts:
Air Quality Facts | American Lung Association

MIT Study: Vehicle Emissions Cause 58,000 Premature Deaths Yearly in U.S.
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2013/10/...yearly-in-u-s/
 
Old 06-27-2018, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Sorry poison fanatic, but few people want to charge up in 5 mins and run 600 miles away not stopping. Most have a bladder that means they have to stop. I have never filled a a large tank up and been in and out the filling station in 5 minutes. You must stop making things up. You will be driving an EV and sooner than you think whether you like it or not. The tipping point has been reached.
I know you’re a automotive expert here in the USA and know the American market and you have inside knowledge of what the American automakers are doing right, Hold on time to empty the bladder and i do fill up my gas tank every time. Funny i haven’t seen any EV chargers anywhere in the metro Detroit area were i live. In fact the Nissan dealer doesn’t have none either because they don’t sell the leaf.
 
Old 06-27-2018, 04:58 PM
 
Location: London
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If it was reached your thread wouldn’t be necessary.
You clearly do not understand what the tipping point is.
 
Old 06-27-2018, 05:00 PM
 
Location: London
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I know you’re a automotive expert here in the USA and know the American market and you have inside knowledge of what the American automakers are doing right, Hold on time to empty the bladder and i do fill up my gas tank every time. Funny i haven’t seen any EV chargers anywhere in the metro Detroit area were i live. In fact the Nissan dealer doesn’t have none either because they don’t sell the leaf.
The tipping point is here. In 2025-2030 you willl be driving an EV, because your air poisoner will be banned and/or the filthy fuel will not be available.
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