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Old 06-26-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: The South
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I only own two cars at a time. I can keep two straight.
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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The names of the American luxury car lineups (specifically Cadillac and Lincoln) are a mess. Lincoln recently announced that they would end their "MK" naming jumble and bring back actual names, but Cadillac's has seemed to get more confusing over the last few years.

Lincoln brings car names back to luxury cars

It used to be that American cars had proper names. DeVille. Town Car. Eldorado. But in the past 15 years or so, they've been given alphanumeric names, to put the focus on the brand rather than the model. Cadillac's current jumble of names... CTS, CT6, XTS, XT5, WTH? Especially the CTS and CT6, both sedans. The CT6 sounds like a variant of the CTS, or vice versa.

At least 10 years ago, they had CTS, DTS, and STS sedans, as well as the SRX SUV. Much easier to understand; DTS started with D like Deville, and STS started with S like Seville, and the CTS was a successor to the Catera, which also started with C.

The German luxury car makers have done it right. Mercedes' latest scheme is brilliant: C, E, and S class for cars, followed by numbers indicating engine displacement. Add "GL" to the front for SUVs. So you know, for instance, that a GLE-Class SUV is equivalent to an E-Class car. Audi? A for cars, Q for SUVs, followed by a number (except the TT, which is a touring coupe). BMW? The number at the beginning indicates the position of the car in the lineup. Simple.
Now that it's implied that cars are fuel-injected, is it really necessary to retain the "i" at the end of BMW model numbers?
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Research Triangle, NC
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Now that it's implied that cars are fuel-injected, is it really necessary to retain the "i" at the end of BMW model numbers?

BMW came around and made the trailing letters useful again in recent years.

i = fuel-injected (gasoline)
d = diesel
e = electric (specifically plug-in hybrid)

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Old 06-26-2018, 10:58 AM
 
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BMW came around and made the trailing letters useful again in recent years.

i = fuel-injected (gasoline)
d = diesel
e = electric (specifically plug-in hybrid)
Or my favorite combo... B7
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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I never liked letter naming designations. Of course for makers like BMW or Mercedes, they are well-established and shouldn't change a thing.

But Lincoln should have stuck with their classic names like Mark 8, or Town Car, or Continental (which they brought back). Infiniti also should have stuck with their previous naming designations as well. The latest Qx and QXx naming convention is terrible.
Yeah I have no idea what Nissan was/is thinking with that. It was much better with the G, M, etc. G25 = 2.5L. G35 = 3.5L. G37= 3.7L. M56 = 5.6L.

What's a Q60? What does it stand for?
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:35 AM
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Location: California
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Infiniti, Acura and Lexus are no better at this. Why single out American cars?
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Old 06-26-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Infiniti, Acura and Lexus are no better at this. Why single out American cars?
Infiniti is a mess. Acura and Lexus aren't hard to understand.
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Old 06-26-2018, 12:12 PM
 
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lol that's not accurate at all. The BMW 340 series is an inline 6. I doubt all the others are correct as well.

You're right, the 340 should be a 6. But those are all from the respective websites.
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:50 PM
 
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Actually those numbers don't mean anything anymore. Both MB and BMW learned that no one wants to pay German luxury money for a small engines. Now the number is a marketing term as you can see by the below:

C300 = 2.0 T 4 cylinder
C43 = 3.0 T 6 cylinder
C63 = 4.0 T V8

320/323 - 2.0 T 4 cyoinder
340 = 3.0 T 4 cylinder
328D = 2.0 T 4 cylinder diesel
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lol that's not accurate at all. The BMW 340 series is an inline 6. I doubt all the others are correct as well.
Just reviewed. All of them are correct except for the 340 - that's should be an I-6. The 330 also has a 2.0 T 4 cylinder.

For your acceptance:

https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/mo...3-series-sedan

https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehic...int=way_models
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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Just reviewed. All of them are correct except for the 340 - that's should be an I-6. The 330 also has a 2.0 T 4 cylinder.

For your acceptance:

https://www.bmwusa.com/byo.html#!/mo...3-series-sedan

https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehic...int=way_models
Funny thing is the BMW 320i also has a 2.0 T 4 cylinder just like the 330 so BMW is just as confusing as Infiniti and Cadillac
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